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To: Colonel Kangaroo; dljordan
But the "elite" should have known better to think such presumptuous thoughts such as the notion that Virginia was a "country" that could stand in the world doing what she pleased as an independent entity.

Oddly, the framers of the Constitution saw this as the exact opposite; the Union could not stand as a 'country' or independent entity without New York and Virginia.

I'm curious, as someone who absolutely despised the Constitution and the notion of increased federal power; someone who would gladly have taken Virginia out of the Union at the time of Constitutional ratification, do you consider Patrick Henry a traitor as well?

495 posted on 09/25/2005 4:07:35 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Oddly...

Odd accurately describes the overwhelming majority of your posts.

497 posted on 09/25/2005 4:33:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Gianni; Colonel Kangaroo
I'm curious, ... do you consider Patrick Henry a traitor as well?

Your bilious editorializing aside, the answer is no.

"The first thing I have at heart is American liberty; the second thing is American union; and I hope the people of Virginia will endeavor to preserve that union." -Patrick Henry June 5 1788

503 posted on 09/25/2005 8:57:58 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: Gianni

Who do you think better upheld the ideals of Patrick Henry and the Declaration of Independence-the Radical Republicans or Cornerstone Stephens and the rest of the pro-slavery crowd?

Unless the Declaration didn't really mean what it said, the Radical Republicans were the true heirs of the Revolution and it's goal of liberty for ALL men.


538 posted on 09/26/2005 10:18:16 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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