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To: justshutupandtakeit
A new moron speaks up.

So your standard is that if someone has a position on a subject other that that held by you, that makes them a 'moron'?

Do you believe that the secession of the colonies from Great Britain was legal and supported by God Almighty? Do you believe the secession of Texas was legal? The secession of West Virginia from Virginia. Do you believe that the secession of former Soviet Sates was legal? The secession of Taiwan from China? A no to the first means you would have us to be colonies still, a no to the second means that much of the West must be returned to Spain. A no to the third destroys a state. A no to the fourth refutes the USSR and subjects the world to the threat of communism and another Cold War. A no to the fifth means that you disagree with the framers and the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
You position on secession puts you in the company of Tories and Communists.
186 posted on 09/12/2005 7:55:00 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross. HIS love for us kept Him there.(||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
No a moron is one who vilifies and LIES about Lincoln. It has nothing to do with opposition to me though that doesn't help much.

The American Colonies were only part of Great Britain by a convention and never received all the rights exercised by Englishmen. It was the demand for full citizenship which became rebellion not a vile plot by self-admitted traitors. No comparison. WV's refusal to join the Treason of V was not a secession either. No comparison. Texas was never a true part of Mexico which was without the rule of law. Santa Anna was a usurper and military adventurer hence no comparison. Resumption of self rule from Soviet military despotism was not secession either. No comparison.

There is no comparison to the Slavers' attempt to destroy a Republic governed by the People through the rule of law and all your attempts to equate that with rebellion against tyranny's without the rule of law are nothing but sophistic devices.

Nor does the Declaration of Independence excuse it. It fact, it is hilarious to find you trying to use is so since the Slavers violated its principles from the very first word. THEY are the last to believe "All Men are Created Equal." In FACT, they devoted their lives to making sure that all men were NOT treated as equals. A throughly disgusting bunch of LIARS and hypocrites whose equals could only be found amongst the corrupted aristocracy of Russia.

And attempts to equate the views of those who understand the Evil of Slavery and its perpetrators with Communists are asinine beyond belief.
195 posted on 09/12/2005 8:24:40 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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