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To: cowboyway
it has generally been the North that has been closer to the ideals of the Founders.

The Founders idealized socialism/communism? Have I been reading the wrong history books again?

You're exhibiting the common Dixie mistake of forgetting the situation of the black man in the South after the Civil War. If you were white and was a planter, then you did enjoy a very limited Republic. If you were black, then you likely lived a life of serfdom that had much more in common with Russians on one of Stalin's collective farms than anything we understand as the American ideal.

Ahh....you finally got to the point of my post and the Draft Riots. The point is that yankees are as racist, or more so, than the entire rest of the nation, but yankees will never admit it, so they point their finger southward and shout "RACIST" at every chance.

Yankees were/are no more racist than Southerners. There are good and bad everywhere. The postwar difference was that in general, Northern governments fostered improvement toward American ideals, while Southern governments were based on ignorance and keeping the bulk of whites and blacks in opposition. There was hope for progress in the South with the first movements of true white/black popular concert in the Reconstruction Republican governments, but sadly the North lost its will and the Democratic masters of ignorance resumed control over much of the South.

1,311 posted on 01/03/2006 1:07:19 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
while Southern governments were based on ignorance and keeping the bulk of whites and blacks in opposition.

The post war South was a Reconstruction government filled with carpetbaggers and scalawags; read, yankees and their minions, so, you are absolutely right about being based on ignorance.

"Congress in 1865 fell under the control of hate crazed zealots; men who wanted to punish the Southern States for daring to leave--and for political advantage. And in the next few years, the gathering storm of hatred that had led to disunion and war was exceeded by the vengeful hatred of those who had anointed themselves to put the Union back together. Yet hate begets hate, as ill will, malice. And the harvest of Reconstructive vengeance was three generations of sectional bitterness and hostility."

Civil War, Reconstruction & Creating Hate In America Today

Of course, there is plenty more if you want to look for it.

1,312 posted on 01/03/2006 2:00:53 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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