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To: Gianni

Try to follow along, Gianni. The discussion is how busy was the port of New Orleans, which is relevant because you guys keep trying to claim that New York so dominated shipping that the south just HAD to secede. I presented some data that showed numbers for the arrival of ships to New Orleans. Pea said that the number included steam boats/river traffic, implying that ocean shipping out of N.O. was less. For that to be correct, though, and for the column Pea says represents steam boats to actually be that (as opposed to ocean-going steam ships: st. ships vs. s. boats on the table) it would have to mean that only 300-some steam boats docked at New Orleans in the years in question, as opposed to 3000-some, a number on the chart corroborated by the other sources I presented. Pea's position is that, although the chart's title includes the word "steam boats" and includes a column headed "s. boats", that it's actually the "st.ships" column which includes steam boats, and the "s. boats" column is something unknowable.


1,076 posted on 10/27/2005 11:50:04 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth; PeaRidge
which is relevant because you guys keep trying to claim that New York so dominated shipping that the south just HAD to secede.

Nobody said this.

Anywhere.

Ever.

Sorry, you don't get to make stuff up.

1,077 posted on 10/27/2005 7:42:43 PM PDT by Gianni
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To: Heyworth; Gianni

"you guys keep trying to claim that New York so dominated shipping that the south just HAD to secede"

No one is saying that. What is being said is that the Northeast was so fearful of the power of the Mississippi that politicians and media were urging Lincoln on to blockade the ports.

"Pea said that the number included steam boats/river traffic, implying that ocean shipping out of N.O. was less"

I made no such connection.

"s. boats" column is something unknowable."

That is, unless, you have some other data.


1,100 posted on 11/01/2005 12:48:34 PM PST by PeaRidge
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