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Fishing Captain Files Claim After Possible Run-in With Submarine
New London Day ^ | 9/9/5 | JOE WOJTAS

Posted on 09/09/2005 7:42:49 AM PDT by SmithL

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21 posted on 09/09/2005 8:11:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: MineralMan

Boats don't routinely send their positions to one another, even when they're working together. Waterspace management is handled at the Squadron, Group or Force level depending on the operation, so each boat knows what water is assigned to the other. More than one boat is never assigned to the same patch of water as another, so they don't spend a lot of time worrying about where their playmates are.

One more thing, submarine OPAREAS and transit areas are marked on navigation charts so fisherman knew the risks before casting his nets.


22 posted on 09/09/2005 8:15:22 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: One Proud Dad
Amazing that he could hear our subs talking to one another on the radio, the Russians tried for years and were unsuccessful. Guy is a super spy genius.

I would like some RM(SS) guidance here, I thought that when a sub is on the surface it needed to monitor and use the normal clear (non-encrypted)radio channels for navigation and such.

Holy crap, that is a first...a surface ET asking a bubblehead RM for information... besides "how did all this carbon and scorching happen inside this BRA-34?".

23 posted on 09/09/2005 8:22:28 AM PDT by EricT.
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To: EricT.

Not being a submariner, but knowing some they monitor traffic on non-secure channels but do not talk to each other on them, only non-military vessels on it.


24 posted on 09/09/2005 8:25:23 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: EricT.

When transiting on the surface, submarines do monitor and use clear VHF ship-to-ship for comms with shipping.


25 posted on 09/09/2005 9:04:36 AM PDT by PogySailor (Good luck to my son & buddies in the 1/11 Marines deploying to Iraq)
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To: SmithL
Submarine? What Submarine?

I didn't see a submarine. But I heard their top secret communications. Right...

26 posted on 09/09/2005 9:46:09 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: EricT.

When piloting, we monitor ch. 16, 13, 72 and whatever harbor common is for that particular port (usually 24-28). Where isn't a hard and fast requirement to monitor VHF bridge-to-bridge during a normal surface transit but we usually send a handheld up to the bridge with the Officer of the Deck so he can make sure it gets plenty of seawater in it.

We used to monitor Primary ship-ship and ship-shore from Radio but those were UHF frequencies. On my boats I'd have a VHF set in Radio patched to the sleeve antenna on the Type-18 scope, but that's by no means standard; Just the way I ran my shack.

Some of those scorch marks can be attributed to stupidity, but most to idiot Diving Officers who trim too heavy at PD, or junior OODs who don't tell the RMOW they're about to bump the mast down so they can see over it. The C-10863 is SUPPOSED to cut out the helix when the mast doesn't indicate up to prevent that sort of thing.


27 posted on 09/09/2005 10:43:29 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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but most to idiot Diving Officers who trim too heavy at PD

Actually, this is what had usually happened. Seawater is NOT the ideal medium for high power RF transmission.

28 posted on 09/09/2005 8:51:42 PM PDT by EricT.
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