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To: sissyjane; paltz

To: Embraer2004

This is a post from a fellow over in Merritt Is, FL, a reporter who's been researching what went on before the storm hit
I think all of Nagin's pomp and posturing is going to bite him hard in the near future as the lies and distortions of his interviews are coming to light.

On Friday night before the storm hit Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of NO and they said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.

President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.

Saturday before the storm hit the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster.

Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to NO for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding as we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning - though the document implies that they were.

The suffering people of NO need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.

This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.

Maskil

14 posted on 09/08/2005 8:26:39 AM EDT by paltz
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39 posted on 09/08/2005 7:05:59 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

I believe that is exactly what happened, but as usual the American press is not interested in the truth.


56 posted on 09/08/2005 7:08:57 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: randita; paltz

Throw in that the Mayor publicly stated he was talking to his attorneys about the legality of evacuation (this after Maxfield's call).
It was all over FR and TWC.
Kinda confirms the story the reporter is working on.


76 posted on 09/08/2005 7:14:43 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: randita
half the federal aid of the past decade to NO for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships.

I need a source for this statement. Do you have one I could link to?

106 posted on 09/08/2005 7:28:41 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: randita

Where is that post from?
Is it FR?

The whole thing makes me sick.


115 posted on 09/08/2005 7:31:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Prayers for victims of Katrina)
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To: randita
bump to your 39
183 posted on 09/08/2005 7:55:20 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: randita

Great info, wait till the 'hearings' and the tapes of the conversations with Blanco and Nagin come out. I also bet there were phone calls to Democratic leaders in congress asking them to help get the Louisiana folks on board so disaster could be avoided. I bet it's gonna get real embarrasing for some democrats.


188 posted on 09/08/2005 7:58:41 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Liberals will only go to Wal-Mart for looting!)
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To: potlatch

good post #39


321 posted on 09/08/2005 9:46:04 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: randita

bttt


337 posted on 09/08/2005 10:44:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: randita
The suffering people of NO need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states.

This will come out, as this disaster is too big to fade from people's interest any time soon. One of the reasons that people were quick to blame "FEMA", Michael Brown, Michael Chertoff and President Bush is because it is expected that people in charge will perform, and Gov Blanco was a) invisible and b) a democrat.

During last week, watching the suffering of the stranded, and reading on the internet about the intransigence of the governor, I had a very hard time comprehending her stubbornness. This week, after watching Mary Landrieu and Nancy Pelosi say things that no normal intelligent adult should ever say, I realize that Gov Blanco saw the entire disaster of her state through the prism of politics instead of through the prism of her mandate - public safety and the protection of her state.

She should have criminal charges brought against her.

344 posted on 09/09/2005 4:10:23 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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345 posted on 09/09/2005 4:11:14 AM PDT by LivFREEordie
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To: randita

Post 39 - either great inside information or maybe a breaking news story.

Need to know more about the source Can you Link where the article came from?


350 posted on 09/09/2005 5:53:28 AM PDT by PureTrouble
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To: randita

FReepers are the best!


352 posted on 09/09/2005 6:42:08 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Prayers for victims of Katrina)
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