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To: snarks_when_bored

why are random selection and intelligent design mutually exclusive.


326 posted on 09/08/2005 8:50:55 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
why are random selection and intelligent design mutually exclusive

It's not entirely clear since advocates of "intelligent design" steadfastly refuse to say or postulate anything about how (or when, or where, or by what/whom) acts of "design" are actually implemented. But they do assert (baldly) that acts of design are non-natural. IOW they are "inferred" when we can eliminate (don't ask me how) "natural causes".

Yeah, I know it's a mess, and intentionally shielding your mechanism from scrutiny is completely unscientific... But don't complain to me. This is what ID'ers say that ID is.

330 posted on 09/08/2005 9:01:30 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: ckilmer
why are random selection and intelligent design mutually exclusive.

They're not, in principle; one could easily imagine a cosmos in which an intelligent designer imposes various levels of order on an underlying process that's undergoing random variation. Indeed, Plato's Timaeus describes such a cosmos—the Demiurge whips the pluripotent and randomly shaking Receptacle into shape using mathematics and the eternal Forms.

But the project of modern empirical science dispenses with final causes, intentions, in favor of lawful but impersonal energetic interactions. The evident successes of science bespeak the wisdom of this project.

357 posted on 09/08/2005 10:08:32 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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