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To: LogicWings
Ah, here comes the personal attack/kill the messenger replies.

As far as answers I've heard no new ones here, that's for sure. But knock me out if you want...

Who sets the boundries of a theory and why are they set where they are? Who determines the bounries must remain where they have been set?

What does "novel" and "cardinal" as related to "current biological science and information theory" mean to you?

322 posted on 09/08/2005 8:27:42 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Who sets the boundries of a theory and why are they set where they are? Who determines the bounries must remain where they have been set?

In large part the structure of the theory itself and the nature of it's mechanism determines the bounds of the theory. Of course research and reflection may indicate that a theory's model or mechanism can and does explain more than first thought, and so the theory might be "extended," but the nature of the mechanism will again set effective limits.

Consider for instance the mechanism of natural selection. In its very nature it necessarily presupposes certain things. For instance that there is something to "select". So the entities to which it applies must have the property of superfecundity, or what Darwin called "ratio of increase". IOW they must produce more of themselves than the environment can potentially support. This means that you must have something that reproduces, and if selection is to have an effect on these populations of reproducing things then there must be properties of inheritance operative. The reproducing, environment dependent, superfecund entities that pass traits to offspring must also exhibit variation in inheritable traits if the mechanism of natural selection is to be applicable to them.

The only entities that possess all these traits: reproduction, inheritance, variation, superfecundity, etc are LIVING ORGANISMS. Therefore evolutionary theory presupposes the existence of living organisms. Their existence is a boundary condition of the theory.

337 posted on 09/08/2005 9:19:26 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: dynoman
Ah, here comes the personal attack/kill the messenger replies.

Haven't gotten there yet, you're just touchy.

As far as answers I've heard no new ones here, that's for sure.

I did, I guess you were so busy looking for personal attacks you missed it. Again. . .

OK, if life cannot come out of a dead Universe, then what conclusion do you draw?

But knock me out if you want...

Wouldn't be useful, you appear to already be asleep.

Who sets the boundries of a theory and why are they set where they are? Who determines the bounries must remain where they have been set?

How do you know there are theories? How do you know such theories have boundaries? Who determined that theories have boundaries? Who determined they must be set? What do any of these words mean? How do you know they mean what you think they mean? Do you have a dictionary? Do you speak the English language? How do you know it is English and not Spanglish? How do you know anything? How do you know you exit?

How do you know the Gospels aren't a fraud? How do you know Israel actually existed as a nation 2000 years ago? How do you know that Columbus sailed across the Atlantic? How do you know that you aren't in a Box created by a Demon and all this is an illusion created to deceive you? How would you know you actually existed this being the case?

How do you know that the Universe really didn't come out of the naval of Vishnu as He was sleeping forever in eternity? How do you know that Krishna didn't create the Universe when He woke up in that naval and decided he wanted to have 10,000 wives?

How do you know anything? How do you know that the terms "novel" and "cardinal" as related to "current biological science and information theory" have any meaning to anyone, let alone me.

Don't answer my queston with a question, Parsifal, you are out-gunned.

Again, in case you were sleeping and missed it.

OK, if life cannot come out of a dead Universe, then what conclusion do you draw?

340 posted on 09/08/2005 9:24:01 PM PDT by LogicWings
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