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Shelter-seekers find long lines, noisy conditions in Superdome
Duluth News Tribune ^ | Mon, Aug. 29, 2005 | DAVID OVALLE

Posted on 09/07/2005 7:34:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb

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To: BykrBayb

Well, the LANG is under the control of the Governor (still) so I guess there is only one place the order to abandon the Superrdome could have originated. I cannot confirm that such an order was given, nor even that they ever left. But we know that they were there before and during the hurricane, and it's hard to imagine the other stories of crime in the Superdome could have occured had the Guard remained. Or am I missing something?


21 posted on 09/07/2005 8:42:01 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: BykrBayb

Of all the stories I've seen, the one that got me the most was the woman, guess what color, at the NO Dome who had been given drink and food...coplaining that she hadn't had a "HOT meal" in three days.

I'm sure the ingratful bitc# has never sucked sand for a year!


22 posted on 09/07/2005 8:45:45 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: BykrBayb
Doesn't anyone else remember this?
I remember; despite our Goebels's press trying to rewrite the history of it ...
23 posted on 09/07/2005 8:46:36 PM PDT by _Jim (Listening 28.400 MHz USB most every day now ...)
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To: _Jim

Do you remember who delivered the MREs? How many they delivered? Can you find a link to verify it?


24 posted on 09/07/2005 8:48:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Supplies WERE delivered to the dome before the hurricane, because they knew people would be there before the hurricane.

Right. And now the media is denying it. Who delivered those supplies? Am I right that it was the National Guard? Am I right that there were 360,000 MREs? That would feed 30,000 people for four days. How many people were at the Superdome at any given time?

This article claims there up to 10,000 people, and the day after the hurricane there was no food. If that's true, they had to each eat at least 36 MREs in one day.

25 posted on 09/07/2005 8:49:18 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
I was beginning to feel like the main character in 1984 (what was his name?)

Winston Smith

26 posted on 09/07/2005 8:51:37 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

Thank you.


27 posted on 09/07/2005 8:55:03 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Smartaleck

I saw her too. She also said,water, water, that's all they gave us to drink was water. Did you see the women I interviewed last night at the astrodome. She was asked, "are you getting everything you need?" No, she said, not really, I don't have any money.


28 posted on 09/07/2005 8:55:06 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: BykrBayb

I remember multiple reports on TV - I would go back a week or so here on FR and find some news articles that might have been posted ...


29 posted on 09/07/2005 8:56:35 PM PDT by _Jim (Listening 28.400 MHz USB most every day now ...)
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To: BykrBayb

A lady, in the shelter that I volunteer in, told me today that they had MRE's and water the entire time. She didn't eat or drink, much, because the bathroom facilities were so awful. Being in a wheelchair just made it more difficult for her.


30 posted on 09/07/2005 8:56:37 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: _Jim

Thanks. I tried that before I ever posted this thread. There are about a gazillion articles about Katrina. The report I read might not have even been a thread of its own. It might be buried among thousands of posts in one of the live threads. Or maybe I saw it on TV, which is even worse.

It's a relief to hear from so many people that I wasn't hallucinating. There really were MREs delivered to the Superdome before the hurricane.


31 posted on 09/07/2005 9:02:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Here's one of the Katrina threads, on 08/28/2005:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472123/posts?q=1&&page=2201

I would expect that somebody posted details about MRE's in that thread and the ones that followed; near the end they post a link to the next Katrina thread in the series.


32 posted on 09/07/2005 9:16:07 PM PDT by _Jim (Listening 28.400 MHz USB most every day now ...)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast

" No, she said, not really, I don't have any money."

So did you give her some? LOL


33 posted on 09/07/2005 9:23:09 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: BykrBayb
Nicole Rios said she never watches television, but for some reason she felt compelled to tune in a few days ago. That was when she learned about Katrina and the Superdome shelter.

Not surprising, Rios works in New Orleans as a psychic.

I good psychic would've planned her vacation for that week.

34 posted on 09/07/2005 9:42:47 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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From the Times-Picayune Archives- Monday, Aug 29

----About the MRE's before the Hurricane
To help keep them fed and hydrated, the Louisiana National Guard delivered three truckloads of water and seven truckloads of MREs, short for "meals ready to eat." That's enough to supply 15,000 people for three days, according to Col. Jay Mayeaux, deputy director of the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Emergency Preparedness.

---Also on Monday, the Red Cross
Red Cross to the rescue
Monday 11:18 p.m.
American Red Cross spokesman Victor Howell said 750 to 1,000 Red Cross personnel are now at work on hurricane recovery in Louisiana, and 2,000 more volunteers will be here in the next few days.The Red Cross will bring in three large mobile kitchens to prepare 500,000 meals per day. There are 40 shelters statewide, housing about 32,000 people, "and you're going to have more," Howell said.

---Also from Monday. What I believe is the most crucial cause of all the problems with the recovery: Lack of Communications.
"Police, firefighters and private citizens, hampered by a lack of even rudimentary communication capabilities, continued a desperate and impromptu boat-borne rescue operation across Lakeview well after dark. Coast Guard choppers with search lights criss-crossed the skies"

35 posted on 09/07/2005 10:07:08 PM PDT by xrhopsiomega
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Thanks so much for finding this!

With those figures, it would have taken 45,000 people to eat all the MREs in one day (at three meals per day.) I read there were up to 10,000 people there. It should have lasted them 4 1/2 days. To eat them all in one day, each person (including the babies) would have had to eat 13 1/2 MREs. Bon appetit!

I think the Louisiana National Guard was still under the governor's control when they stocked the Superdome. They didn't come under the control of FEMA until... I'm not sure they ever did. Other states' National Guards were operating under FEMA's orders before the hurricane even hit. In other words, the only thing FEMA didn't do was illegally seize control of the Louisiana National Guard. They provided assistance through other states' National Guards, the Coast Guard, and the Navy. (I hope I didn't leave anyone out.)

According to the Navy, on Aug 31, the National Guard brought more supplies to the Superdome. They don't specify under whose orders, but since they didn't specify that it was the Louisiana National Guard, I'm guessing it was the National Guard serving under FEMA. http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=27554 .


36 posted on 09/07/2005 10:50:44 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
She also refused access to the Red Cross. Nobody was allowed to bring food and water to the Superdome or the Convention Center, because the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, and the Governor, decided it would be better to get people back out of there.

That was idiotic considering that they didn't let people back out, or if they walked to the bridge they were turned back. Once the buses did come one could worry about that issue (easily solvable if necessary by segregating a group out to go onto a waiting bus and telling them that their next meal is on the bus). Because of these unnecessary privations, people are going to be ill or DEAD who wouldn't have been if the Red Cross supplies had come.

37 posted on 09/08/2005 1:50:08 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: BykrBayb

Fine but what about the WRD's?


38 posted on 09/08/2005 1:51:18 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: BykrBayb

bttt


39 posted on 09/08/2005 1:52:54 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: xrhopsiomega

bttt


40 posted on 09/08/2005 1:57:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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