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Feds Bust New Jersey Bogus Cigarette Ring
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| Sep 7, 2005 6:38 am US/Eastern
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Posted on 09/07/2005 10:52:29 AM PDT by Calpernia
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:52:31 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...
The Lackawanna and Michigan Terror cells were also involved with cigarette smuggling. I would love to know what the specific origins were of the 'Asians' mentioned above.
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:53:39 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
"Since the arrests, authorities seized an additional $1.8 million worth of cigarettes in southern New Jersey ..."
How do they determine the value of bootlegged cigarettes?
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT
by
tfecw
(It's for the children)
To: Calpernia
BUSTED
oops..
guess I'll have to head to Va.
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:56:43 AM PDT
by
evad
( PC KILLS--NOLA is just the latest example)
To: Calpernia
>>>At the time of the arrests, officials said some of the cigarettes were made in China and the money appeared to have been produced in North Korea.
Of interest.
http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/images/iraqitour.pps
Notice the picture of the books on how to create fake identitication. It is from Korea.
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:57:29 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: tfecw
Street value? (I'm guessing)
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posted on
09/07/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
I don't think smokers would want to buy bogus cigarettes.
Maybe the cigarettes are real, and it is the ring that is bogus?
To: Calpernia
I don't think smokers would want to buy bogus cigarettes.
Maybe the cigarettes are real, and it is the ring that is bogus?
To: Calpernia
Prohibitively high taxes = boon for organized crime
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:02:45 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: Calpernia
Was Torricelli arrested? He's probably in it up to his eyeballs.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:05:13 AM PDT
by
highlymotivated
(If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
To: proxy_user
The cigarette smuggling with Lackawanna and Michigan were gray market. So you are probably right that these weren't counterfeit.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:05:59 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
warfare, plain and simple
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:09:37 AM PDT
by
wildcatf4f3
(Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
To: proxy_user; Calpernia
It is not some much the cigarettes are bogus - although who knows what some of them may contain - it is more the packaging and tax stamps that are bogus....and that's a major part of how the value is determined.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:11:04 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
To: Gabz
I remember reading something about tax stamps with the Lackawanna incident!
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:15:37 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
I believe you are correct.
It has become a huge problem because the outrageous taxes - and what is the government solutions, go after the people who purchase the cigarettes on line and increase the taxes even further.........which is what initiated the problem to begin with.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:23:31 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
To: tfecw
How do they determine the value of bootlegged cigarettes?
They base it on the retail value for the state they are siezed in.
Which obviuoly is more than what they will sell for but it is what they state calculates to determine lost revenue.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:23:56 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
To: Calpernia; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; metesky; Mears; ...
Guess I need to ping all my usual suspects!!!!!!!!!!
PUFF!!!!
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:24:43 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
To: Gabz
it is more the packaging and tax stamps that are bogus.Correct.
Several years ago there were tons of obscure brands in SE Asia, the packaging is easy enough to produce by entities that can bootleg DVD's and create multi-language subtitles within 72 hours of release.
Doing a Marlboro package and cigarette tubes would be child's play.
There was one popular brand - Jet - that tasted like a Marlboro but was also synonymous with "tax evasion". It was smuggled in several countries and *never* had a tax stamp.
No one knew where the heck it came from but my guess was always Burma.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:25:18 AM PDT
by
angkor
To: Gabz
Not a surprising development.
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posted on
09/07/2005 11:27:32 AM PDT
by
patton
("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
To: Calpernia
To call something a 'bogus cigarette' implies that it's not really a cigarette at all. That's why smokers wouldn't want them.
On the other hand, if it wasn't a ring, the police wouldn't want them.
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