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To: Tailgunner Joe

I am shocked! Russia hasn't liked Turkey since about 1454!


2 posted on 09/07/2005 9:49:48 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Russian Leader Putin: Isolation of Turkish Cypriots is not Fair

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3 posted on 09/07/2005 9:57:47 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: redgolum
I am shocked! Russia hasn't liked Turkey since about 1454!

But Ezekiel, in Chapter 38, was given words from Almighty God which Bible scholars can easily trace, by ancestry passages in Genesis, to show a connection between Turkey and Russia in the last days, prior to a great, failed invasion of Israel. Included in the invasion, no surprise, are Iran, Ethiopia and Libya. I find this all very fascinating.

4 posted on 09/07/2005 10:08:59 AM PDT by Migraine
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In Eurasian geography, the possibility of a Turkish-Russian strategic cooperation is based in general upon the current Russian administration’s point of view. Turkey pays special attention to the ideas of Alexander Dugin, one of representatives of the Neo-Eurasianist movement, and supposes that Russian authority shapes its foreign policy according to these ideas.

Dugin’s Eurasianism and Turkey

The classical Eurasianism while proposing an alternative to the Western civilisation project had also some suggestions in order to make the Turkish-Slav cooperation possible. Offering an alternative historical mentality instead of Europe-centred historical interpretations that dominated Russia for centuries and considering the oriental influence - especially the Turkish one - in Russia with a positive eye, it proposes a solution for the oriental communities living in Russia at least. According to the Eurasianist thinkers, Russia should reconsider the East, which it used to consider as the "Other" and its philosophy of life in general, in order to get rid of the Western material and spiritual exploitation that it endured for years.

It is supposed that Dugin’s ideas are also based upon this classical Eurasianism. He put emphasise on the fact that in the Eurasian geography, Russia and the East would cooperate strategically against the American influence. As a matter of fact, Dugin, rather than to formulate an alternative civilisation project to that of the West, offers some keys to Russia to become the ruling power in Eurasia. The very foundation of that movement is the will to break the Atlantic influence on Eurasia. It is also known that at the very beginning, Dugin had considered Turkey as a foe, and only in the last period he changed his mind and thought that actually Turkey would be charged with a key role in the alliance, which will be set up against the United States. Nevertheless Dugin’s Eurasianism claims that after the collapse of American influence in Eurasia, a multi-polar structure would emerge and that there would be some interest struggles, which will be determined by geopolitics itself. In the middle of the 1990s, Dugin turned to be right noting that the result of the Turkish-Russian fight was determined by geopolitics. From that angle, the Eurasia-centred geopolitical view of Dugin could only envisage a tactical cooperation between Turkey and Russia against the common enemy. According to that view, any other strategic cooperation between these two countries is not possible at all.

It should be kept in mind that whether classical or neo, the Russian Eurasianism is not a movement projected for Eurasian geography, but Russia herself and by Russian thinkers. And Dugin’s Eurasianism is not other than the continuation of the classical Eurasia philosophy in order to legitimate the new imperialist policy of Russia. For instance, there is no difference at all between Dugin, who used the Eurasianism to justify that the Northern Kazakhstan is a part of the Eastern Russia and Russian nationalists, who simply claim this region. Ditto there is no difference between the Eurasianist Dugin and Jirinowsky, who both are talking about warm seas. - LINK

10 posted on 11/01/2005 5:47:32 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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