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FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit
NewsMax ^ | September 7, 2005 | NewsMax Wires

Posted on 09/06/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: Eagle Eye
Okay, so the "we are not Trolls" crowd gets Brown fired. Let's see their prefered qualifications for a new FEMA director.
Am I forgetting anything?
681 posted on 09/07/2005 11:21:42 AM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: snuffy smiff
"wrong-o again. I'm damned glad you hold no important position(and now I know why)"

Your absolute lack of anything substantial, or otherwise, to back up your claim is noted.

682 posted on 09/07/2005 11:22:53 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

you can stuff your note where the sun don't shine, troll-if you can get it past your head


683 posted on 09/07/2005 11:24:56 AM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: JaneAustin

Good one. :-D


684 posted on 09/07/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: JaneAustin

Ooooh, ooohh! He/she can't have political connections!


685 posted on 09/07/2005 11:27:22 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
does FEMA Director Brown not have a television? A radio? The Convention Center not being on some list is no excuse for not knowing there was help needed at the Convention Center when it was on the news for two days.

You really don't understand the role of FEMA at all do you?

686 posted on 09/07/2005 11:29:52 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: Coop

at least, not any conservative ones....right?


687 posted on 09/07/2005 11:29:56 AM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: Coop
Needs to watch TV 24 hours a day so he can find out what he is not being told.
688 posted on 09/07/2005 11:30:47 AM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: spunkets
Although the local plans are primary, where there is nothing holding them back from their proactive duties, they should take action as per above goals and duties.

This statement by you is incorrect. Their is plenty that can prevent a Federal agency from being proactive in terms of State and Local responsibilities.

The law is just one of those things.

689 posted on 09/07/2005 11:33:29 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: SandyInSeattle
" All of those bullets above appear to be during the response phase of an incident, not the pre-incident phase. "

They apply regardless. There is no temporal quality to their application. They are the objectives and guidelines for all their bureaucratic programs and for the evaluation of fed required local planning.

"DHS hung up"

badlink? try... There's also CFR Title 44

690 posted on 09/07/2005 11:36:41 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Lunatic Fringe

To have sent in people before knowing where to send them would have been lunacy. Of course as self described lunatic, I guess that doesn't matter.

He had advance people on the ground telling him the situation and when they reported and he learned the situation he acted to commit the main body of forces. If you had the job they would be dead or out of action from storm damage.


691 posted on 09/07/2005 11:37:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: spunkets; Coop; teawithmisswilliams; billbears; george wythe
From a Knight-Ridder article:

Head of FEMA has an unlikely background




Knight Ridder Newspapers

(KRT) - From failed Republican congressional candidate to ousted "czar" of an Arabian horse association, there was little in Michael D. Brown's background to prepare him for the fury of Hurricane Katrina.

But as the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Brown now faces furious criticism of the federal response to the disaster that wiped out New Orleans and much of the Gulf Coast. He provoked some of it himself when he conceded that FEMA didn't know that thousands of refugees were trapped at New Orleans' convention center without food or water until officials heard it on the news.

"He's done a hell of a job, because I'm not aware of any Arabian horses being killed in this storm," said Kate Hale, former Miami-Dade emergency management chief. "The world that this man operated in and the focus of this work does not in any way translate to this. He does not have the experience."

Brown ran for Congress in 1988 and won 27 percent of the vote against Democratic incumbent Glenn English. He spent the 1990s as judges and stewards commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association. His job was to ensure that horse-show judges followed the rules and to investigate allegations against those suspected of cheating.

"I wouldn't have regarded his position in the horse industry as a platform to where he is now," said Tom Connelly, a former association president.

Brown's ticket to FEMA was Joe Allbaugh, President Bush's 2000 campaign manager and an old friend of Brown's in Oklahoma. When Bush ran for president in 2000, Brown was ending a rocky tenure at the horse association.

Brown told several association officials that if Bush were elected, he'd be in line for a good job. When Allbaugh, who managed Bush's campaign, took over FEMA in 2001, he took Brown with him as general counsel.

"He's known Joe Allbaugh for quite some time," said Andrew Lester, an Oklahoma lawyer who's been a friend of Brown's for more than 20 years. "I think they know each other from school days. I think they did some debate type of things against each other, and worked on some Republican politics together."

Brown practiced law in Enid, Okla., a city of about 45,000, during the 1980s and was counsel to a group of businesses run by a well-known Enid family. Before that, he worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., and was an aide in the state legislature.

From 1991 until 2000, Brown earned about $100,000 a year as the chief rules enforcer of the Arabian horse association.

He was known as "The Czar" for the breadth of his power and the enthusiasm with which he wielded it, said Mary Anne Grimmell, a former association president.

The suspensions Brown delivered to those suspected of cheating resulted in several lawsuits. Although the association won the suits, they were expensive to defend, and Brown became a controversial figure.

...

So 9 years as a horse show judge commissioner was the perfect qualification for FEMA head?

The city of Edmond where he was assistant city manager in the Eighties is currently a growing town of 70,000.



A letter from the New Hampshire Arabaian Horse Association on Brown being fired as commissioner for the IAHA:
I am headed to the IAHA convention in San Antonio after Thanksgiving. It should be a hot time down there this year. A complete counter slate of officers has been offered from the floor of convention. There is a lot of unrest in this industry right now. There are 17 resolutions pertaining to Resolution 5-90 (The office of the Judges and Stewards Commissioner) i.e.; the $3.00 fee. Mike Brown who was commissioner was requested to resign after all of the controversy regarding the number of lawsuits that are pending transpired.

692 posted on 09/07/2005 11:37:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: been_lurking

"You really don't understand the role of FEMA at all do you?"

What is this mantra of the BureacratBots? Would you mind enlightening us?


693 posted on 09/07/2005 11:38:14 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: George W. Bush

Same ol' hit piece. zzzzzz


694 posted on 09/07/2005 11:39:17 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: spanalot

By my count you've been enlightened over 130 times already.


695 posted on 09/07/2005 11:41:35 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: bert

I heard the left media was all a big scam.... They each give the other a check and pass them so often the banks can't keep up. The left is a kiting scheme on a grand scale.


696 posted on 09/07/2005 11:41:54 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: been_lurking
Re:Although the local plans are primary, where there is nothing holding them back from their proactive duties, they should take action as per above goals and duties.

"This statement by you is incorrect. Their is plenty that can prevent a Federal agency from being proactive in terms of State and Local responsibilities."

What part of, "where there is nothing holding them back from their proactive duties" don't you understand?

697 posted on 09/07/2005 11:42:04 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: JaneAustin

"Must have PR skills
Must have experience with more than 167 disasters
Must have mind reading skills
Must be willing to break the law as well as do things that are not in his scope of authority
Must not be an attorney (Rudy apparently gets a pass on this one)
Must know which local and state governments are competent"

You'll be surprised that those with the best management records actually develop skills that approximate the above.


698 posted on 09/07/2005 11:44:22 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

apparently our mantra is resonating far, far better than the one you FEMA bashers is:

September 07, 2005

Public Skeptical New Orleans Will Recover Criticism, but little outrage, for Bush's and federal agencies' response to hurricane

by David W. Moore

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

...

Despite widespread criticism of the response by Bush and, separately, the federal government, to the problems caused by the hurricane, the public seems on balance only mildly critical. Forty-two percent say Bush did a "bad" (18%) or "terrible" (24%) job, but 35% rate his response as either "great" (10%) or "good" (25%).

...

When asked to identify who was most responsible for the problems in New Orleans after the hurricane, 38% of Americans said no one was really to blame, while 13% cited Bush, 18% the federal agencies, and 25% state and local officials.

...

Few Americans feel that any top official in the agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be dismissed from office -- just 29% say someone should be fired, while 63% disagree.


(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...


sorry losers, now try something else


699 posted on 09/07/2005 11:45:01 AM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: spunkets

You're impossible.


700 posted on 09/07/2005 11:48:18 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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