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Kristol: Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory? (Will Bush nominate a conservative?)
The Weekly Standard ^ | September 6, 2005 | William Kristol

Posted on 09/06/2005 4:14:43 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: Soul Seeker

It will be fun over the next few weeks to watch another round of judge bashing. You just never know which side will have the most temper tantrums. I appreciate more information on important subjects like this, don't you?
The following is a good example of what can be found online:

"That statement by Quin doesn’t lower the level of concern about Judge Clement. Today, Quin wrote at http://www.confirmthem.com/?p=750#comments as follows:

IMPORTANT: I am becoming more and more comfortable with Joy Clement as a potential replacement for O’Connor. I’ve done some digging. Nothing flamboyant there, but just a good, solid jurist….Probably the most impressive thing about her record is this: As a district court judge, out of more than 1,300 opinions she authored, only 17 were reversed, partially reversed, vacated or even remanded….As a nominee, she won’t make conservative hearts go pitter-pat like, say, Clarence Thomas did. But she is indeed worthy of the highest court in the land."


61 posted on 09/06/2005 6:15:26 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@ God Bless President Bush As the MSM and Democrats Seek To Destroy Him.com)
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To: RWR8189
He was right on O'Connor retiring instead of Rehnquist...let's hope he's not right now...

O'Connor had told people she was going to retire in 2005 a year ago. Kristol used common knowledge to make himself look smart.

There were stories all over the place in the spring of 2004 that O'Conner was going to retire after the 2004 term. Then there were stories that President Bush asked her to stay until after the 2004 election so he would have more Republican votes in the Senate. She agreed and kept her word. There were posters here on FR trashing Bush for asking O'Conner to stay on an extra year. I remember taking flak for defending President Bush not wanting to try to get a justice confirmed in an election year.

The story about O'Conner agreeing to stay on until after the 2004 election was posted here on Free Republic.l.. more than once.

FR was where I learned about it more than a year before she retired. It was common knowledge.

62 posted on 09/06/2005 6:27:10 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I will not back down.

The judiciary was one of 2 central reasons for the reelection of Pres. Bush.

This past decade has been dedicated to making the supreme court at least a bit more conservative.

This nominee MUST be a conservative. Must. This is what all the hard work has been about. Whoever has aspirations for the next POTUS nomination from the Repub's better jump on this with both feet and insist on a conservative. They will win the base this way faster than any other route.

Frist, Santorum, Allen.....are you listening?


63 posted on 09/06/2005 6:28:07 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: RWR8189

We are back to square one and not even sure how Roberts will turn out, W has to put up a strong conservative or risk losing his biggest supporters.


64 posted on 09/06/2005 6:34:48 PM PDT by John Lenin (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
we conservative constitutionalists are in real trouble

Remember that is was "conservatives" like Kristol who supported John McCain.

65 posted on 09/06/2005 6:50:24 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: ontos-on
regarding your #50 post.
I'm sure he gets opinions from a few different sources then makes up his own mind. Unless your a DU'er then you believe he is a puppet of Karl.
66 posted on 09/06/2005 7:27:05 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: skimbell
If it isn't Edith Jones I'm taking my vote and going home!

If everyone had that attitude we wouldn't have to worry about long lines at polling places.

67 posted on 09/06/2005 7:30:11 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: samadams2000

I really think (not based on any real evidence) that Bush wants to nominate a Hispanic American to the Court


69 posted on 09/06/2005 9:44:03 PM PDT by flixxx
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To: flixxx

Thats why I fear the muppet.(alberto) I want best of breed. Hes boxed himself into a hispanic or woman which really irks me unless he goes for a headbanging conservative. I dont want any "deals" made at our expense....again....


70 posted on 09/06/2005 9:49:04 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Luttig and Jones are at the top of my list. I had Roberts right behind Luttig for the the first nomination. There are others who would be minimally-acceptable, but not Clement or Gonzalez.

If he doesn't come through on nominations, he's going to lose my support and that of his most ardent supporters, and then he'll be fed to the lions without a care from the right and amid much hoopla from the left.

So be it.


71 posted on 09/06/2005 9:59:07 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: democratstomper
democratstomper said: "If Bush nominated someone like Roberts for the O'Connor slot once, why does Bill think that he wouldn't do it again?"

You're exactly right. I see no reason that the list of potential candidates would be any different for O'Connor's position now than it was several weeks ago. The selection work has already been done and Bush will be able to make the announcement immediately when the conditions are right.

72 posted on 09/06/2005 10:11:02 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: samadams2000

Pro-abortion, gun-grabbing, pro-racial preferences - that's a real conservative for you! By that standard, Hillary Clinton is even more "conservative." Gonzales is a hack, nothing more - an affirmative action re-conquistador unfit to preside over a traffic court.

If we must have an "Hispanic" (a government-invented ethnic group) in order to genuflect before the altar of "diversity", Estrada has at least demonstrated that he shares some core values with the conservatives who voted for Bush.


73 posted on 09/07/2005 12:52:20 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Common Tator

FR was where I learned about it more than a year before she retired. It was common knowledge.

That wasn't the point on which Kristol was right. Most people knew she would retire soon. What Kristol said was that O'Connor would retire before Bill Rehnquist would. And he was right. None of the other talking heads guessed that except for him. They were all taken by surprise that O'Connor announced her retirement before Rehnquist. That was what Kristol got right.


74 posted on 09/07/2005 1:14:54 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: RWR8189

Ted Olson my choice.
Please remember Barbara Olson in your prayers for the victims of 9-11 on Sunday. I still miss her very much.


75 posted on 09/07/2005 2:45:27 AM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO & SLICK and his WINO)
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To: newzjunkey
You *assume* Roberts is a conservative.

Whereas, you *assume* he isn't.

76 posted on 09/07/2005 2:48:23 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: RWR8189

This article is loaded with a bunch of tripe, I don't know where to begin.


77 posted on 09/07/2005 2:50:54 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: flaglady47
That wasn't the point on which Kristal was right. Most people knew she would retire soon. What Kristal said was that O'Connor would retire before Bill Rehnquist would.

O'Connor said she was going to retire at the end of the session.

The odds were about 99.9 to 0.01 that Rehnquist was not going to resign. When Kristal made the prediction the Chief Justice had been diagnosed for some time and he had not resigned. If a person diagnosed with terminal cancer does not resign at diagnosis, that person is not going to resign until death. People who have hopes of survival quit to devote all their faculties to survival. Those that accept death try to live and work as normally as possible until the day they die or become comatose.

A call to any oncologist or radiologist could have informed anyone what Rehnquist was going to do and how long he was very likely going to live. It was as predictable as the sun comes up in the morning and goes down at night.

Any analyst with a brain knows to call doctors to learn what a very sick person will likely do. To find out what an indicted person will do, call a good lawyer. To predict what a politician will do in any circumstance, call a good politician. To predict how a judge will rule call lawyers who have practiced before his bench. It ain't rocket science.

Anyone who wanted to know what was going to happen, could have easily did what Kristal did. The fact that few if any reporters did, only proves that most reporters are not very skilled or bright.

Kristol has a very bad track record. He is wrong a very large percentage of the time. If you plot what Kristal predicts you will find he just tends to take positions opposite to whatever most of the press is saying at the time he predicts. If he is right he makes a big deal of it. If he is wrong few, if any, remember and he never mentions it.

Most of the media are wrong about half the time. Kristol is wrong the other half.

78 posted on 09/07/2005 2:52:06 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: RWR8189
He was right on O'Connor retiring instead of Rehnquist...let's hope he's not right now...

He was right on O'Connor after she made her announcement to retire. He postulated in an article after her announcement like he heard it through some anonymous source just to make himself look smart.

79 posted on 09/07/2005 2:53:26 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Common Tator

The last time I heard Kristol get it wrong was when he said Bush blew it in the Presidential debates, including the last one where Bush cleaned Kerry's clock. Kristol sided with Mara Liasson, of all people.


80 posted on 09/07/2005 2:58:29 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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