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50 Republican Incumbents Undeserving of Support by Pro-life Voters
Republican National Coalition for Life ^ | August 25, 2005 | COLLEEN PARRO

Posted on 09/06/2005 3:48:24 PM PDT by Constitution Restoration Act

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To: Constitution Restoration Act

More republicans than that are un-deserving of the anti-socialism vote..


21 posted on 09/06/2005 6:36:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Gipper08; Constitution Restoration Act; Dan from Michigan; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; ...

There are two who are in real danger of primary defeats.

One, Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), faces a primary challenge from ex-state Representative Randy Graf. Graf is emphasizing border security but is also strongly pro-life.

Joe Schwarz (R-MI) first won last year because several pro-life candidates split the conservative vote. If conservatives can rally around one candidate, he can win if he gets proper support.

The Republican National Coalition For Life should focus their recourses on those two winnable races.


22 posted on 09/06/2005 7:29:22 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 09/06/2005 7:48:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: AuH2ORepublican
The only hypocrite in the bunch is Jim Marshall of Georgia, who almost always votes pro-abortion

He ran as a pro-lifer -- what has he voted the wrong way on?

24 posted on 09/06/2005 8:18:44 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Heather Wilson

Is not pro-life, IIRC. A few of the others were notable for not being the most principled members, but some were surprises.

25 posted on 09/06/2005 8:24:41 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I'm marrying a woman before they make gay marriage mandatory!)
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To: Constitution Restoration Act; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued
Michigan's reps: Fred Upton has always been erratic on this issue. He's being forced more to the right since redistricting gave him more of Allegan County which is one of the most conservative in the state. Upton is safe, and defeated his last primary challenger Dale Shugars 2-1.

As for Joe Schwarz he can be beaten with a strong primary challenger. He is well known for being pro-choice, as well as anti-gun(and somewhat pro-tax as well). He only won in 2004 because conservatives split their votes among several challengers in different parts of the district. Schwarz took advantage of that, as well as some democrat crossover votes. He won with under 30% in the primary, and was lucky to face a weak democrat who was underfunded.

On the democrat side, Dale Kildee is extremely liberal on most issues(unions, guns, economics), but he is pro-life due to his Catholic religion(he went to Sacred Heart Seminary).
Bart Stupak (also Catholic) is a moderate democrat from the Upper Peninsula. The district voted for Bush twice and has a majority of conservative democrats who split their tickets. Stupak is erratic on many issues, but is solidly pro-life, as is his district. A pro-choicer would likely be defeated there as the district is socially conservative, and economically somewhat populist.

26 posted on 09/06/2005 8:25:30 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Draft Mark Sanford for President - 2008)
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To: Constitution Restoration Act; YCTHouston

Since GOPcapitalist left Free Republic I have only you to ask. Joe Batron a good conservative is on this list, any idea what's up?


27 posted on 09/06/2005 8:28:41 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (I'm a Conservative but will not support evil just because it's "the law.")
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Randy Cunningham

I thought he already announced he was not seeking reelection.

28 posted on 09/06/2005 8:58:41 PM PDT by heleny (Yes on CA Propositions 73, 74, 75)
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To: Coleus; AuH2ORepublican; GVgirl; NYer; cyborg; Knitting A Conundrum; Victoria Delsoul; Tax-chick; ..
I'm not.

He's generally pro-life-especially in comparison to his predecessor in office-but not an absolutist-for better or worse-on most social issues.

My problem with this subject-and this was alluded to in Ramesh's NR piece-is that it's so often framed within the parameters of a debate between implacably anti-science, religiously orthodox Luddites-a la Steve Reich-and enlightened, progressive forces that only want to enrich the lives of desperately impaired Americans suffering incomparable grief and pain as a result of chronic illnesses.

I take issue with this notion, since it doesn't take into account the moral dimensions inherent in bioethics, and dismisses legitimate moral concerns that arise from both religious and non-theist individuals who don't believe that human beings-or incipient life-should be tampered with in order to further the aims of scientific research, no matter how valuable such scientific discoveries might be.

Even if you accept the premise that embryonic stem cell research will ultimately prove more profitable than other less objectionable alternatives, e.g. adult stem cell and blood cord research, rather than merely a biomedical dead-end, as was the case with the equally promising-but ultimately fruitless-field of fetal tissue research several years ago, that still doesn't resolve the crux of the problem, which is the existing conflict between exigent medical needs and longstanding ethical qualms about reducing the amount of respect accorded to potential human life.

I don't think you have to be of a particularly conspiratorial mindset to extrapolate from what the government is being asked to do now, i.e. rescind any and all restrictions placed upon embryonic stem cell research, and perhaps endorse therapeutic cloning, to a future scenario where the federal government has put its imprimatur of acceptance on mass harvesting of human embryos for any and every conceivable reason, including-quite possibly-merely for cosmetic purposes.

The advocates for these sorts of procedures place a premium on the duration and quality of life, which are indeed very important, but the quality of an individual's life doesn't necessarily encompass the entire sweep of humanity.

29 posted on 09/06/2005 10:04:38 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

Unfortunate, but typical of Republicans. They treat us the way Dimmycraps treat blacks.


30 posted on 09/06/2005 10:18:42 PM PDT by TBP
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

It looks like they based this soley on the stem cell vote.
While I disagree w/ Barton on that bill, declaring him to not be pro-life, as if one bill wipes out his entire record, doesn't strike as having a whole lot of credibility.

The local Right to Life has kind of gone off the deep end too. I used to be somewhat involved with them, but I think they've lost perspective. They view themselves as sole judges and spokesmen for the movement, which just isn't true anymore. When they take a solid anti-abortion legislator, and call that person an "enemy of life" on the basis of one vote, they lose credibility. I've seen the local group do the same thing, where they completely disregard some legislator's solid anti-abortion record because they disagreed on a research bill.


31 posted on 09/06/2005 11:15:20 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston; HoustonCurmudgeon

Sorry, when I said "the local group," I was thinking of Texas Right to Life, not the Republican Coalition for Life.

In any event, we are winning more than we are losing, and could win more if we weren't so damned determined to purge all the 95%ers.


32 posted on 09/06/2005 11:20:07 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
framed within the parameters of a debate between implacably anti-science, religiously orthodox Luddites-a la Steve Reich-and enlightened, progressive forces that only want to enrich the lives of desperately impaired Americans

These are moral and ethical questions that government is not capable of resolving, but encroaching federalism will enforce our condecension. Questions of law best left to state governments to define citizenship and the rights thereof. At least in that arena, moral questions have a chance, because morality is not a universal. Morality is a code of conduct.

33 posted on 09/06/2005 11:23:21 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

I agree with a solid majority of Americans and scientists that embryonic stem cell research is promising and will save millions of lives down the road. It's an embryo, not a fetus! Be consistently pro-life and allow universities federal funding for this life-saving research.


34 posted on 09/06/2005 11:37:24 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: GVgirl
Good point.

Although I don't think anyone is advocating federal intervention against states that choose to experiment with embryonic stem cell research, e.g. California, New Jersey, among others.

What concerns me is that there seems to be a reflexive prejudice against exploring other avenues of biomedical research.

It's almost as if some public officials have already reached the conclusion that this is the only viable way of finding treatments for chronic diseases before all of the data is in, which is the opposite of how the scientific method should (ideally) work.

35 posted on 09/07/2005 1:38:40 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: YCTHouston

Agreed, and my thanks.


36 posted on 09/07/2005 5:25:18 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (I'm a Conservative but will not support evil just because it's "the law.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
reflexive prejudice against exploring other avenues

Yes. Because the right to life forces challenge the cloaked defense of abortion, and as you say, the debate is painted with the broad brush of fanaticism.

The public is fed false hopes of miracle cures and the people who would deny that hope are made evil.

Unfortunately, we can forget about the scientific community doing anything to help the situation because they've proved themselves to be $$$ whores. They'll walk away with pockets full of money and say it's all a "policy decision" and they have nothing to do with it. So we are funding the promise of a promise.

And you're right again. It's the opposite of scientific method. But no one (except that rare honest person)is going to come forward and block one avenue of research against another because no one really knows what the outcome of either avenue will be, and they don't want to be perceived as standing in the way of progress.

Look at what happened in the Terri Schiavo debate. She was painted as a hopeless vegetable and even with a willing and able family to care for her, her life could not be spared and those who supported sparing her life were called a bunch of nuts.

Bush is right to say the government should err on the side of life. But he's sounding like one voice in the wilderness. I had hopes for Frist, because he was one person who could have lent a good deal of credibility in this debate, and he turned out to be another politician.

37 posted on 09/07/2005 5:38:21 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Constitution Restoration Act; Cyrano

only one in MN? Is that because of the low percentage of Repubs from MN or... :-)


38 posted on 09/07/2005 6:44:45 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: JohnnyZ

"The only hypocrite in the bunch is Jim Marshall of Georgia, who almost always votes pro-abortion

He ran as a pro-lifer -- what has he voted the wrong way on?"



Johnny, you're right. I guess I was confused his voting record with someone else's, or maybe got the wrong impression from Marshall's very low ACU rating in 2003 (he got a 28, lower than Sanford Bishop's and David Scott's and not much higher than Denise Majette's). I just checked and Marshall even voted against the sham substitute amendments to the partial-birth abortion ban and the unborn victims of violence act. And according to National Right to Life Committee ratings, Marshall's only pro-abortion vote was for funding for the UN Population Fund (which subsidizes coercive abortion practices) in 2003, a vote he apparently regreted because he voted against funding in 2005.

But I could have sworn that his Republican opponent in 2002 and 2004, Calder Clay, claimed that Marshall was not really pro-life.


39 posted on 09/07/2005 9:13:32 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: JohnnyZ

"Heather Wilson

Is not pro-life, IIRC."



I don't know how she campaigned for the House, but Wilson's voting record on abortion has been almost entirely pro-life (although not quite as pro-life as Jim Marshall's). Her only pro-abortion votes have been on the cloning ban and embryonic stem-cell research, and the 2003 UNPF funding. http://www.capwiz.com/nrlc/bio/keyvotes/?id=398


40 posted on 09/07/2005 9:19:48 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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