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RUSSIA: Putin tells West not to interfere in ex-Soviet republics
The Times (London) ^ | September 06, 2005 | Michael Binyon

Posted on 09/06/2005 9:19:33 AM PDT by REactor

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By destabilising border countries he means any attempt to bring democracy there??

Mr Putin, a committed Christian,

ROTLMAO When and where did this sudden conversion take place, comrade Putin?! Uhahahaha!

BTW a few days ago a Polish diplomat was arrested on Polish-Belorussian border for smuggling "illegal" press, i.e. periodicals of the Association of Poles in Ukraine. He was accused of western espionage.

1 posted on 09/06/2005 9:19:34 AM PDT by REactor
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To: Tailgunner Joe; lizol

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2 posted on 09/06/2005 9:20:32 AM PDT by REactor
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To: Stellar Dendrite; spanalot

ping


3 posted on 09/06/2005 9:21:31 AM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478192/posts


4 posted on 09/06/2005 9:27:52 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: REactor

"By destabilising border countries he means any attempt to bring democracy there??"


I was waiting for the other shoe to drop when he bragged how he had planes standing by to go to NO.

Leave it to the Kremlin to attack when we are in the midst of a disaster.



5 posted on 09/06/2005 9:28:47 AM PDT by spanalot
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The operative phrase is "ex-Soviet republics" as nations these countries can associate with whom the choose.
6 posted on 09/06/2005 9:46:54 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: REactor

It does remain to be seen whether the 'colored revolutions' (It's a shame Apple Computer didn't trademark that one) will in fact be a positive event.

Yushenko seems to be doing a lot of anti-Russian things but isn't exactly succeeding in creating a massive sustainable western aligned economy.

Most of Europe's big players that rallied behind Yushenko want nothing to do with him on important issues like Ukraine potentially joining the EU.

That said Putin can whine all he wants Belarus's days as a communist dictatorship are numbered.


7 posted on 09/06/2005 9:52:40 AM PDT by x5452
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To: REactor; strategofr; A. Pole; MarMema; Mount Athos; Lion in Winter; RusIvan; YoungCorps; ...
Mr Putin, a committed Christian,

ROTLMAO When and where did this sudden conversion take place, comrade Putin?! Uhahahaha!

I told you long ago Putin is a Christian. Indeed, he had my wife and a couple of others write a Bible curriculum for the schools, which he had drawn into a bill and signed into law.
8 posted on 09/06/2005 11:06:13 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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I told you long ago Putin is a Christian. Indeed, he had my wife and a couple of others write a Bible curriculum for the schools, which he had drawn into a bill and signed into law.

ROTLFMAO; oh Christ help me!! So there are really some pitiful patsies who actually believe this crap??? oh please please, not anymore!! Bwahahahahhhhaaa...

9 posted on 09/06/2005 12:06:23 PM PDT by REactor
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10 posted on 09/06/2005 12:12:36 PM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor

DEFENDER OF THE FAITH


11 posted on 09/06/2005 12:13:43 PM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor

What the hell is this :) ?


12 posted on 09/06/2005 12:18:48 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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VLADIMIR THE GREAT, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH AND CZAR OF ALL THE RUSSIA AND ADJOINING UNIVERSE
13 posted on 09/06/2005 12:33:53 PM PDT by REactor
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URA ! URA ! URA !
14 posted on 09/06/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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It does remain to be seen whether the 'colored revolutions' will in fact be a positive event.

Those revolutions were "positive" only if they brought to power people who were elected by the majority. You, as an American should understand that this is something good.

Most of Europe's big players that rallied behind Yushenko want nothing to do with him on important issues like Ukraine potentially joining the EU.

I don't want to be chauvinistic, but the only (semi)big player that rallied for Yushchenko was Poland. EU and US joined later.

France, Germany and Britain didn't want Ukraine inside EU before the orange revolution, and they don't want it now. The reason is that Ukraine is still unreformed economically, and because France and Germany don't want to "annoy" Putin.

15 posted on 09/06/2005 2:52:04 PM PDT by REactor
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France, Germany and Britain didn't want Ukraine inside EU before the orange revolution, and they don't want it now. The reason is that Ukraine is still unreformed economically, and because France and Germany don't want to "annoy" Putin.

I am sure you thought of all the hardships the Ukraine would have to endure prior to the election.
16 posted on 09/06/2005 4:01:17 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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UKRAINE'S LEADERS FALL OUT OVER CORRUPTION ALLEGATIONS

By Tom Warner in Kiev, Financial Times London, United Kingdom, Tue, Sept 6, 2005

The political team that led Ukraine through last winter's Orange Revolution was on the verge of splitting yesterday as President Viktor Yushchenko's chief of staff said he was resigning because of corruption within the president's inner circle.

Olexander Zinchenko, who headed Mr Yushchenko's election campaign, called on the president to sack his national security council secretary, Petro Poroshenko, and his first aide, Olexander Tretyakov, whom Mr Zinchenko accused of "cynically realising their plan to utilise authority to their own purposes". He told a press conference: "I can't and I don't want to put up with this outrage towards the law."

Mr Zinchenko's departure comes amid an increasingly public dispute between Mr Yushchenko and his prime minister, Yulia Tymoshenko, who is widely believed to be preparing to head her own, separate electoral list for parliamentary elections next March in case Mr Yushchenko indicates he does not want her back as premier after the March vote.

Mr Yushchenko in recent months has increasingly turned to Mr Poroshenko and a group of his allies, including Mr Tretyakov, for personnel and policy decisions. Mr Poroshenko, clearly on the defensive, surprised onlookers and arrived uninvited at Mr Zinchenko's press conference.

After Mr Zinchenko left the press conference, Mr Poroshenko refuted the departing chief of staff's accusations. Mr Zinchenko, he said, had not explained or backed up his claims with any evidence, and Mr Zinchenko should have helped "bring those involved in corruption to justice", instead of making "unproven political accusations".

The dispute between Mr Yushchenko and Ms Tymoshenko has been exacerbated as different groups of businessmen seeking to gain control of key industrial and media assets have allied themselves to one or other political camp.

Last week, Mr Yushchenko sharply criticised Ms Tymoshenko for her handling of a court battle in which the government is seeking to reverse the 2003 privatisation and sale of a big metallurgy plant, Nikopol Ferroalloy, to Viktor Pinchuk, the son-in-law of former president Leonid Kuchma.

Mr Yushchenko backed the reversal, but criticised Ms Tymoshenko for helping another prominent local businessman, Igor Kolomoysky, who owns a minority stake, increase his influence at the company prior to the new auction.

Ms Tymoshenko has insisted her actions were correct and legal. Mr Kolomoysky, in recent interviews, accused Mr Poroshenko of trying to halt the reversal of the sale and of seeking to allow Mr Pinchuk to sell his stake to Russian oligarchs. Mr Poroshenko has strongly denied such intent.

Mr Zinchenko's accusations come after Ms Tymoshenko has increasingly complained that aides to the Ukrainian president were favouring certain businessmen and seeking to enrich themselves.
17 posted on 09/06/2005 4:07:14 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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Thanks, but it's nothing new. Corruption flourishes all over Europe (E.Europe especially)


18 posted on 09/06/2005 4:11:21 PM PDT by REactor
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I am sure you thought of all the hardships the Ukraine would have to endure prior to the election.

Sorry, I don't understand. Please elaborate on this a bit more. What hardships, what elections, etcetera.

19 posted on 09/06/2005 4:17:45 PM PDT by REactor
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"“No, I am not going to run for president in 2008. No, we are not going to amend the constitution,” he insisted"

His successor will be selected by the current collective leadership (mainly former FSB employees) and "approved" by a bogus election.

In Putin's favor I suppose, is the fact that no journalist in Russia seems to find fault with him. On the other hand, the fact that all recent journalistic opponents have been killed could be a disincentive in that regard.

On the positive side, none were executed by the government. All were apparently executed Mafia-style---with no apparent government investigation, no suspects, and no arrests. It is my understanding that due to job cutbacks in the FSB (former KGB), many former FSB employees are now in the Mafia


20 posted on 09/06/2005 4:20:23 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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