Posted on 09/06/2005 5:11:42 AM PDT by billorites
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This piece is a panic attack looking for an excuse. lol
There are two bodies, the soul created in the beginning, which was placed in the flesh body at conception, except those fully grown adult males and females.
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Well, not all biology textbooks are written by evolutionary biologists. Some are written by biologists whose specialty is in another field of biology.
Of course, some evolutionary biologists have written primary and high school texts, or at least contributed to them. I don't think that these textbooks are bad. They're at least not as bad as a lot of the books public schools are using for Math and the humanities. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
It's also true that evolution is the fundamental organizing principle of biology. Therefore all biologists, even those who do not specialize in evoluton, do research that involves evolution in some manner.
Evolution is not limited to just biology textbooks, every "science" book presented in public school has some portion of the TOE as foundation.
Really? TOE in a physics textbook a chemistry textbook? I somehow doubt it. It must be something new. When I was in high school in the early 1990's, only biology textbooks mentioned the TOE. If you have a referece to a physics textbook that has "some portion of the TOE as foundation," love to see it.
Exactly how does one practice evolutionary biology? Do they have a business name?
Perhaps "practice" was the wrong word. I mean evolutionary biologists who are actively doing research in the field.
What evolution contains no math, no history, and void of English?
I was talking about subject areas. Math, English, and history are subjects taught in classes seperate from biology. Leftist ideology has resulted in terrible textbooks that are used in Math, history, and English classes. The textbooks used in biology are, for the most part, pretty decent as far as I can tell.
The mindset of the evolutionists permeates every discipline and appears a blindness afflicts that mindset.
Really? How exactly does this midset "permeate" mathematics? Or history? Or economics?
None of the listed above as destroyers are against evolution.
Yes. So? I never said the destroyers of education are against evolution. Most probably don't care about it much one way or the other.
They're not evolutionary biologists, however, contrary to what you originally claimed. I am presuming that by "evolutionist" you meant evolutionary biologist, but perhaps you mean something else by that term. If so, would you care to clarify?
What resources are being wasted??
Political capital, for one. Also, there are the millions of dollars spent by the Discovery Institute and other ID or creationist lobbying groups.
That's money that could otherwise be going to funding ballot initiatives to end teacher tenure, institute merit pay, or increase graduation standards, for example.
How much is it costing you?? You want the fight to end put up the white flag.
No, I want to fight the real leftist enemies of education, not windmills.
TOE entered the system of education first, you tell a child they are descendants of animals they are going to act like animals. Might surprise you the good brothers donating to the public school system.
The TOE entered the school system in the 1920's. The school system did not start going downhill until the late 1960's, early 1970's. The two have nothing to do with one another.
Evolution is not a sterile walled discipline, the theory/ideology is that which all other disciplines flow.
Yeah, right. Please tell me exactly how the theory of evolution affects the teaching of Freshman geometry.
Hey, I want one of these new 'Tabzilla' browsers--where can I download it? : )
"Exactly how does one practice evolutionary biology? Do they have a business name?"
Try any of the big pharmaceutical or biotech companies.
No, you certainly were intended to notice them. In fact, whether due to prickliness or your part, or poor writing on mine, you seem to have missed the entire point of my message.
I was responding your #186. There you claimed that while evolutionists "may" seek to separate themselves from "liberal swill" (in the public school curricula) you have found that "no such effort exists."
I was giving Bennetta as an example of, not just an "evolutionist" but an evolution activist, who has not merely separated himself from "liberal swill" -- e.g. wacko environmentalism, anti-capitalism, multiculturalism, identity/ethnic group patronizing history, etc -- but has attacked and debunked it with as much energy, eloquence and documentation as he has devoted to opposing antievolutionary pseudoscience.
IOW the fact that he is an evolution/anti-creationism activist was crucial to the point I was making. (And to demonstrating the falsity of your facile assertion.)
So what? Even given your distinction, the Bible informs us clearly and repeatedly that God is the immediate Creator of the "flesh body" as well! Or at the very least that He is personally, actively and intimately involved in its formation. This is every bit as clear, and multiply affirmed, as is God's creation of "souls" (i.e. his investment of the "breath" of life):
Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers? (Job 31:15).
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be (Psalm 139:13-16).
This is what the LORD says--he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you … (Isaiah 44:2).
And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength (Isaiah 49:5).
The word of the LORD came to me, saying, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations" (Jeremiah 1:4-5).
So, again, why the elaborate paranoia over (supposed) denial, via evolutionary science, of God's creative acts in the distant past; but not a hint of distress about denial, via the sciences of embryology and developmental physiology, of acts of divine creation which the Bible assures us are occurring in this very day?!
Or is it possible -- just possible -- that divine creation can be consistent, even seamlessly coincident, with natural cause? Gee, is it possible that even fundamentalist Christians fully accept this coincidence in some cases, but then decry that same coincidence as atheism in others? Ya think?
Well, frankly your prejudices are no longer at issue. You've already asserted effectively (and in this same message where you express multi-punctuated shock that YOU might be so accussed) that all evolutionists are intollerant, God-hating atheists. In fact you even directed these accusations via the ur-bigot formulation, "you people". (That priceless touch almost had me laughing out loud.)
Alright. I can accept that.
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