New Orleans police to be pulled off streets

Seattle Times ^ | September 5, 2005 | Chris Adams, Martin Merzer and Susannah A. Nesmith

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

I'll tell you what is shameful. 200 cops going AWOL in the middle of a disaster, leaving savages to control the streets, is shameful.

If you can't stand heat, don't even go into the kitchen. Nobody made them put on their badges. New Orleans always was a target for major hurricanes. Any cop going to work in New Orleans should have known the day might come when New Orleans would be slammed big-time. All the experts predicted it.

Soldiers are expected to do their duty, even when all of their buddies are being shot to pieces around them.

Why couldn't the 200 AWOL cops have jumped into the idle school buses and started driving their fellow citizens out of harm's way?

I understand one New Orleans boy had the guts to steal a bus and drive a bunch of his fellow citizens to safety in Texas.

That young man apparently instinctively knew a cluster foxtrot when he saw it and knew this disaster called for extraordinary action, not inaction.

There is no excuse for allowing armed thugs to take over the city. NONE

[wtc911]

People have seen such horrific things in war. In Vietnam, During WWII and managed to live with those memories. I'm very suspicious about these suicides.

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What unspeakable horrors have you seen? Are you a combat vet? A Firefighter who has seen children burned beyond recognition? A cop wh has stood post at a multiple murder by stabbing scene where the victims were young, innocent and raped before being killed?

There are people who can take it and people who can't. Until you experience it yourself you cannot predict your own reaction. And, btw, do you believe that the groups you mentioned had no suicides?

[ChadGore]

Let's review the process:

Reality: Cat 5 in the Gulf?
Reaction:I'll stay.

Reality: Cat 4 on my house?
Reaction:I'll stay.

Reality: Levees topped?
Reaction:I'll stay.

Reality: Fresh water gone?
Reaction:I'll stay.

Reality: Food gone?
Reaction:I'll stay.

MSM screams "There's no help !"

[DocH]

Woman are not insecure as a gender

Then why do they watch Oprah & Dr. Phil (and other "utter claptrap" shows) in great numbers?

Why do they fall for that, and all of the other psycho-babble on TV?

Why do they cake their faces with make-up and go in droves for boob jobs and other purely cosmetic surgery?

Why is it that women, in much greater numbers than men, go for weight-loss gimmicks and schemes, that have been demonstrated to rarely work in the long run?

Not generalizing about ALL women, just asking a few of the many questions out there that may concern women and insecurity.

[uncbob]

That is what cops are SUPPOSED to do. You know those metal "L" shaped things hanging in a holster on a cop's side? They're called guns and in a natural disaster like N.O. the cops have virtually unlimited authority to use them.

Nope

Riots and burning and looting started in PHIL NY in 1963--1964---Then came WAtts then came MLK assasination riots--then came Rodney King

In NONE of these cases were the guns used because the prevailing attitiude among most whites was let them burn down their own neighborhoods --and the left wing media and politicos made excuses for them

As long as the looting didn't spill over into ARMDED whiteyville nothing was done

That is the prevailing political atmosphere in this country

Until that attitude changes or the left feels threatened by riots etc NOTHING will change unless some politicians at the state city or national level start standing up against this BS

Expecting a lowly police guy to go against that tide is being naive

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Easy to say when you didn't have your whole life destroyed in a storm.

All of us find it easy to be armchair quarterbacks.

Living it is a different thing.

[hinckley buzzard]

If I didn't know better, I'd swear some democrat strategist is trying to force Bush's hand on federalization

I think more likely, hizzoner just copped an attitude and said "Fine, you want the city you got it. " Then, to his employees, "Come on boys we going home and let the feds do the heavy lifitng.". Passive aggressive BS, pulling his own men and abandoning resposibility altogether.

[Dustbunny]

America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.

I'll second that!

[Deo volente]

"So, Nagin's the one who's been in charge for the past week. Good to know."


EXACTLY!

How could the president be at fault if he wasn't even in charge?

The Democrats' attack on our president is so illogical, it's not even funny!

[dfwgator]

Compare and contrast the NYPD and NYFD during 9/11 with the NOPD. Not a pretty picture.

[pointsal]

Who the heck is that griping president of Jefferson Parish?

I'll bet his next gig is with CNN as a political commentator.

[Deo volente]

"Why couldn't the 200 AWOL cops have jumped into the idle school buses and started driving their fellow citizens out of harm's way? I understand one New Orleans boy had the guts to steal a bus and drive a bunch of his fellow citizens to safety in Texas."

[Carolinamom]

"The security forces won."

WON? The mayor seems to think this was a game.

[Becki]

HA! Why would you be 'paranoid' of a man who calls another man... 'darlin”?

Huh. That give a whole new meaning to "that John Wayne dude".

Uggghh.

Becki

[mass55th]

I don't think he wants any of his officers shot for looting.

[Cedar]

"LA is a big enough state. Why didn't we just send massive numbers of FEMA and other trailers and tents, and set up virtual communities somewhere outside of NO, but still in LA?"

I think your solution is best.

I'm sure lots of the evacuees are decent citizens. But I hate that possible gang members are being sent out across America, especially to the smaller cities and towns that don't presently have a problem with gangs.

[uncitizen]

Whoa! Calm Down. No I am not a combat vet. And of course i am not saying that no Vietnam vets, firefighters et all have committed suicide. It was stupid of you to even ask that qustion.

I just got a feeling that Nagin and the police are in on something together. 1/3 of them abandon their jobs, 2 kill themselves. Maybe some of them are dead in the streets for all we know at this point. And if so, at whose hand? Now Nagin wants to send them off to Vegas. For R&R? Yeah maybe.

Another freeper someone told me that one of the police who killed himself did so after learning his wife was dead. That relieved suspicion a great deal. As i said i could be paranoid about this, and probably unjustly so. But the situation with the NO cops is ....strange. I just can't find the appropriate word at the moment.

[twigs]

And you don't think men do that? Metrosexuals? You just can't make those generalizations. We need a leader like Maggie Thatcher in New Orleans NOW!

[uncitizen]

Maybe you've misinterpreted my meaning. I wasn't suggesting that they were cowards for committing suicide. I was under the suspicion that maybe they did not kill themselves.

Paranoid? probably. But there's something fishy in the city of N.O.

[Clara Lou]

Maybe you've misinterpreted my meaning.
Indeed, I did. I was under the suspicion that maybe they did not kill themselves
One of the deaths was actually witnessed. I suppose that it's mathematically possible that your suspicions could be correct, but, so far, I haven't read/heard that anyone esle shares them with you.