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Out of chaos, order. It's interesting how people will organize given a week.
1 posted on 09/05/2005 12:57:55 AM PDT by v. crow
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intresting not really its calls survival instinct... whats your next trick?


2 posted on 09/05/2005 12:59:08 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Send the Admin Mods and Jim to Vegas 2005....Get them away from the MSM before they POP tour!)
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gee and they would not have had to wait a week if the Gov. of Lousinana had not wasted time while her people drowned


3 posted on 09/05/2005 1:00:42 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Send the Admin Mods and Jim to Vegas 2005....Get them away from the MSM before they POP tour!)
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So nice how you just make your one vauge statement.... the nothing... this is a web board that thrives on discussion... and you ain't discussing....


4 posted on 09/05/2005 1:03:54 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Send the Admin Mods and Jim to Vegas 2005....Get them away from the MSM before they POP tour!)
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The French Quarter doesn't have a drop of water in the streets. They are hoping to get the power back on and get back to business.

As with the beaches in Thailand, it won't be long before tourists are back partying in NO.

5 posted on 09/05/2005 1:04:54 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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Warriors!

Red Dawn

6 posted on 09/05/2005 1:05:35 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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And as time goes on, complaints about the ARC continue to pile up. They were a pain to work with during Ivan and have been placed under investigation (and some people possible indictment) for mismanagement of funds and resources during the relief effort.

Article published Sep 4, 2005 Red Cross bureaucracy causing frustrations

By Billy Gunn bgunn@thetowntalk.com (318) 487-6378
It's been a week since Hurricane Katrina evacuees started arriving, dazed and heartbroken, fearing for loved ones and what the future holds. Many escaped with little clothing, their kids and pets in tow, not much money in their pockets, jobs vanquished.

They grew roots quickly wherever in Cenla they landed: small churches and campgrounds, at least one hotel that let them live in lobbies and fed them.

It was the closest thing to home they've had, and Central Louisiana welcomed them with bountiful generosity.

However, some of the refugees and those who have helped them are frustrated with the Red Cross and its intractable bureaucracy, its tendency to look to the rule book before taking a step, whether it be registering evacuees for shelters and getting help from sorely needed volunteers.

Also, the Red Cross-mandated migrating of evacuees from small shelters to large is ripping some from the small venues where they feel safe to much larger ones where people are placed hundreds to a room with no privacy and a shortage of bathrooms.

Leann Murphy, CEO of the American Red Cross of Central Louisiana, said her agency is in "crisis mode," they're doing the best they can and that she understands the frustrations of evacuees and volunteers alike.

Just walk in the Red Cross' command central on Jackson Street, and one encounters a house almost mad: volunteers dodging each other, cellular phones' different tones sing, a closed door for a much-needed private moment.

But the enormity of the crisis, the influx of refugees (on Saturday the number at approved Red Cross shelters in Central Louisiana was 6,000, with thousands more staying elsewhere), doesn't seem to bring a change in Red Cross procedures.

'Ridiculous'
"The Red Cross, they are ridiculous," said Tim Murry, a manager at Alexandria's Holiday Inn Convention Center, where 100 to 200 evacuees have lived since Katrina's landfall.

The hotel, like many other places with no Red Cross assistance, has sheltered and fed the southeastern Louisiana residents, or former residents, since they arrived: some yesterday, some a week ago.

Murry said he and Raj Patel, whose family owns the inn, on Friday tried to get the temporary tenants registered with the Red Cross but were met with resistance because of the emergency agency's steadfast adherence to its rules.

Before registering, the hotel would have to demand that evacuees leave, then they'd have to find a registration center and fill out a form supplied by a certified Red Cross volunteer, Murry said.

As a compromise, Murry and Patel offered to bring registration forms to the hotel and have evacuees fill them out there to keep their tenants, many of whom have not a buck for gasoline, off the road.

And, they said, the Alexandria Riverfront Center is connected to the Holiday Inn, just steps away.

The Riverfront is one of four big Red Cross shelters in Rapides Parish that continues to take on evacuees; two busloads of New Orleans evacuees arrived Friday night.

But those staying at the Holiday Inn, where in banquet rooms they've made makeshift beds out of chairs, couldn't walk up stairs and register, Murry said.

"I just said screw it. I'm keeping them," Patel said. "The important thing is that they register with FEMA."

FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is a critical link to those displaced and needing federal assistance.

Evacuees at the Holiday Inn said Red Cross volunteers did come and tell them about the procedures and what the agency required.

It wasn't a good exchange, said those who've constructed boundaries where families can keep a semblance of privacy in the inn's banquet room.

The Red Cross volunteer "came barging in here and said that we're destructing the hotel," said Christina Rosa of Metairie, who didn't remember the volunteer's name. "They said the hotel does not want you."

"We had problems with the Red Cross being kinda rude to us," said Sharon Sam of New Orleans.

Both women said the generosity of Central Louisiana and especially Patel and the Holiday Inn staff was a godsend: all were fed, local pastors came by to see check on them, local Salvation Army volunteers supplemented their needs, they felt safe.

But, Marco Sosa said, "This changed a lot of people's mind about the Red Cross."

Riverfront Center
In the Riverfront Center, hundreds lay on cots and milled around in the over-cooled complex Saturday, and Marion Smith missed the smaller confines of Northwood Elementary, where she and other St. Bernard Parish evacuees had stayed. "I loved it there," she said. "It's so crowded here."

Then Cynthia Jate, who drove the St. Bernard bus passengers to safety, told Smith, "I got hold of your son. Pack your bags, he's coming (from Houston) to get you."

Stunned and teary, Smith said nothing, just listened.

"He said he's been to Marksville to Mississippi, Lafayette, lookin' for you," Jate said. "He's so tickled."

Jate told other St. Bernard residents "anything's better than here. You don't know these people.

"All the St. Bernard people, I'm trying to get them out," said Jate, clearly in charge.

A volunteer
Leatha Basco also is mad at the Red Cross. Though disabled, she thought she could do something, anything, for refugees pouring in from the southeastern part of the state.

So, she left Forest Hill Friday morning and drove to the Rapides Parish Coliseum's Exhibition Hall, one of the big-venue Red Cross shelters, the one landmark she knew how to get to.

She put in a couple of hours, cleaning the restrooms and helping by lending her cellular phones to refugees desperate to find loved ones and wanting news on their homes.

Basco then attended training, where "they said that if you can't put in eight, 12, 24 hours (at a time), they don't want you. I just got up and walked out."

"There's a lot of people out there that give a little time," she said. "I guess I'm good enough to clean the toilet but not good enough for anything else."

Murphy, the Red Cross CEO, said her manpower resources are stretched thin, and that might deviate from agency rules and let volunteers work shorter hours.

The minimum-hours rule, she said, is in place for more orderly scheduling.

Town Talk reporter Mandy Goodnight contributed to this article.
8 posted on 09/05/2005 1:07:44 AM PDT by stm
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Lord of the Flies.


12 posted on 09/05/2005 1:11:14 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477403/posts
22 posted on 09/05/2005 1:53:05 AM PDT by fso301
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Some people organize, some don't. The key seems to be education, and a desire to make things better than what one currently has. Those at the Superdome didn't seem able to do it, maybe they were too big a crowd.

Did you notice the article mentioning how police were running people off certain blocks, and kicking them out of the hotel?

One man's order is another man's chaos.


24 posted on 09/05/2005 1:54:31 AM PDT by Victoria
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Amazing in a city like New Orleans where Sodom is a sister city, and a storm of boblical proportions , the most Sodom-like part of the city is unscathed. Soon they will be back to performing sex acts in the street as usual.

Now how come with mandatory evacuations these folks are still there and the only problems they seem to be having is whether or not the liquor will hold out till the next beer truck arrives.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 4:23:07 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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The strong will survive, even prosper
The rest ???


31 posted on 09/05/2005 4:25:06 AM PDT by 1903A3
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The survivors and victims do not stand a chance between the officials and the thugs .

Police came through commandeering drivable vehicles and siphoning gas. Officials took over a hotel and ejected the guests.

An officer pumped his shotgun at a group trying to return to their hotel on Chartres Street.

"This is our block," he said, pointing the gun down a side street. "Go that way."


38 posted on 09/05/2005 6:53:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Sane, and have the papers to prove it!)
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