Parents Unite (Superintendent stalls removal of pornography from elementary school libraries)

Northwest Arkansas Times ^ | August 19, 2005 | BRETT BENNETT

[HAL9000]

The parents group has started a web site at www.wpaag.org. Warning - The site contains several examples of material that can't be posted here - but Superintendent Bobby New allows in the Fayetteville Elementary School libraries.

It should be noted that when these same books were found in New York school libraries, they were promptly removed. It's shocking that a superintendent would delay the removal of this garbage from a public school library.

[Restorer]

From the website: " One of the books informed students that homosexuality was considered an exalted form of love by ancient civilizations."

This happens to be true. I believe a discussion of it is inappropriate for elementary school, but that doesn't change the historical fact.

[martin_fierro]

Superintendent stalls removal of pornography from elementary school libraries

He needs more time to "read the articles."

[zerosix]

Another "historical fact" is that those societies which declared homosexual acts a/k/a highest form of "love" crashed and burned in less than 200 years (Greece 100.)

[Ultra Sonic 007]

This is why 'diversity' is ruining public schools. It's also why home schooling is gaining steam.

Unless this filth is purged from our schools, the indoctrination will continue.

[NickatNite2003]

Nor does it change the fact that all those
"ancient civilisations" were *walking dead*
civlisations on short time, upon "exalting"
homosexuality.

[NickatNite2003]

Yep! Sam FranksDickso is allready beginning to die
as a "civilisation".

[NickatNite2003]

Portrammed & and Seasstle too.

[kingu]

Man, I'm tellin' ya, kids today have it so much easier than us... We used to have to search for this stuff, dig between the mattress, things like that. Today they can do book reports on 'em.

Note to school: Pull the books, THEN REVIEW THEM. If there is nothing to the claims, put them back on the shelves.

[Restorer]

The problem with that theory is that the period during which such exaltation took place was also, perhaps coincidentally, the period of maximum vitality for the society.

The exaltation was then gotten rid of and they laster many centuries more before collapsing.

It is not possible to historically connect the glorification of homosexual love and the collapse of Rome, for instance. When Rome fell, homosexuality had been a capital crime for well over a century.

[Schweinhund]

god...do you really believe that your children will become gay from acknowledging the fact that Alexander the Great was bisexual?

I think you need to spend a little more time with them instead of burning accurate history books.

[skr]

This is about elementary school libraries. What would be the purpose of 1st through 6th graders discussing abnormal sexual preferences?

[Restorer]

See post 10. Sodomy was made a capital crime in Rome in 390.

[Schweinhund]

The purpose would be education, i suppose...like with discussing motives for genocidal wars or communist regimes in history class. Just because you dont support it, its still there and children should know about it. If you keep the truth from children, the one who tells it will gain their trust and give them the feeling you hid the truth from them...

[Restorer]

Alex probably was bisexual, as just about every other Greek aristocrat was. Today's homosexual activists claim him as homosexual, in today's meaning of the term.

This is wildly inaccurate, as men who were incapable of or disinterested in having sex with women were despised by Greek society and were expelled from the army as unmanly.

[Schweinhund]

Yes, that's a good example for why the school should be allowed to tell all the facts to children.

[fr_freak]

From the website: " One of the books informed students that homosexuality was considered an exalted form of love by ancient civilizations."

This happens to be true. I believe a discussion of it is inappropriate for elementary school, but that doesn't change the historical fact.

1) It absolutely is NOT appropriate for elementary school.
2) There is virtually no chance that this would be mentioned in the proper context, and a virtual certainty that this statement alone would be used to promote homosexuality as it is defined today. For example, if we assume that homosexual behavior between men and boys was considered acceptable in ancient Greek society, as has been asserted, understanding that attitude in the proper context would require also knowing that the relationship was considered one of mentorship, rather than a "lifestyle choice", and that the shunning of women in favor of this behavior was considered unnatural.

In short, the homosexual behavior occurred under completely different circumstances with a different definiton, but would be used to justify the current definition of the behavior in today's schools.

[skr]

Elementary school is neither the time nor the place for discussing abnormal sexual preferences. There are far more important subjects for that age group to become proficient in. Do you really believe that bisexuality is on par with genocidal wars and communist regimes for discussions with children under 12?

[AmericaUnited]

From the website: " One of the books informed students that homosexuality was considered an exalted form of love by ancient civilizations."

Yes, and note those "ancient civilizations" died off...

[Restorer]

You are absolutely correct. The ancient classical world seems on the surface to be so similar to our own that we think it is the same. It was not.

Perhaps the most accurate definition of ancient Greek and Roman attitudes in today's terms is that they were just about all Nazis, even the Greek democrats. They differed only about which group constituted the master race entitled to lord it over all others.

Oddly enough, each group usually put itself into that role. :)