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To: NautiNurse
Cool, President Bush is in Poplarville.
To: NautiNurse
I wonder how many drug addicts lived in NO. Will they need medical attention for withdrawal?
Just heard Gingrich talk on Hannity's radio program.
He're is a smart guy, who could do the responsible thing and express the truth - yet he doesn't. He blames the Feds because LA state authorities would let relief come in. Go figure.
Crap weasles, all of 'em.
To: All
What does it mean to federalize the National Guard?
What are both sides of that story?
1,775 posted on
09/05/2005 1:20:26 PM PDT by
owl37
To: All
Regarding evacuees, registered sex offenders, Red Cross database, shelters: Has anything been said about cross checking shelter registrees with known sex offender lists?
2,328 posted on
09/05/2005 3:33:28 PM PDT by
berkeleybeej
(http://www.cattletoday.com/)
To: NautiNurse
My apologies in advance if this was already posted--searched and didn't find it--comment from Rick Lowry at The Corner:
Was just talking to someone who knows military matters and disaster relief, and has been following the situation on the Gulf Coast very closely. Several points (excuse the repetitions):
--“The mayor and the governor are negligent and incompetent. The administration has tried to smooth out the chain of command, but she won't do it. The constitution says that the governor is in charge of the Guard.” (The Washington Post wrote about this on Saturday--and KJL excerpted the relevant bit in here.)
--“None of those poor people were moved prior to the storm. They were told to go to the Superdome, but they had to walk there. Whose responsibility is that?”
-- “General Honore in one day got 20,000 people evacuated from the convention center with a ground and air evacuation. Have you heard about that in the media?”
--“The DoD has been tasked with 40-50 missions here. DoD is the go-to organization for DHS. DHS is trying to build the capacity, but doesn't have it yet. DHS is all brain power and no brawn.”
--“Michael Brown has not done a good job and is in over his head. But, in fairness, FEMA is not organized to handle a catastrophe of this size.”
--“There will be 50k troops there by mid-week, a combination of active duty and National Guard. Including elements of 82nd Airborne Division, First Cavalry Division, and two Marine brigades. That's in just over a week. That's amazing. But no one realizes it. They had to trot General Honore out this morning to try to explain to the media how you move troops. There were National Guard pre-positioned in the north part of Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana two days the storm, watching the storm, seeing which way it was going to go, and once the storm hit, moving troops in immediately. There was a flow-plan that's been working since.”
--“The constitution says the governor is in charge of the Guard. The president would have to invoke the Insurrection Act to over-ride that. No president has done that since the Civil War. And he would have to do it over the head of the governor. Bush is not there yet.”
--“The military is there anyway on the principle: 'It's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.' Federal troops can't do law enforcement. So they are being creative. National Guard will embed in active military units and be there to make actual arrests. That's very similar to what has been done in past hurricanes and the Coast Guard has done the same thing with the Navy in the past.”
--“There are no law enforcement problems in Mississippi. They have been acting there with the cooperation of the governor. In New Orleans, they don't have the same kind of cooperation from the governor or the mayor. It's not as stream-lined or as effective as it could be.”
--“The New Orleans police disintegrated. The national response plan calls for state and local to be the first on the scene. But the catastrophe wiped out the whole local infrastructure and the emergency communications. 80% of the police disintegrated and they are just not beginning to re-constitute.”
To: NautiNurse
If there is anything we learned from Katrina is that the food in NO is very good. Did you see those residents? The first franchise that needs to be placed in this soon to be rebuilt city is Jenny Craig.
2,930 posted on
09/05/2005 6:50:53 PM PDT by
doc
To: NautiNurse
The Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan specifically stated that people without private transportation were to be transported on public buses.
Here is the original post of the planThere were not just "200 buses". There were 200 buses in just one photo and Freepers studying the post-Katrina satellite images have counted over 400 buses altogether at other city parking.
At 70 people per bus that is 28,000 people per round trip that could have been taken out of the storm surge area in the 48 hours prior the Katrina striking.
After the storm hit, what makes you think that buses sent from outside of New Orleans could drive through the flooded mess any better than the 145 New Orleans city buses that were parked 1.2 miles away from the Superdome?
Was Scotty supposed to beam the outside buses to the Superdome and them beam them back out so that they would not have to drive through impassable roads?
The time to evacuate those 200,000 low-income people on public buses OUT OF THE STORM SURGE ZONE was BEFORE the Category 4 storm struck.
That was what the Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan for New Orleans specifically called for.
The Democrat Governor and the Democrat Mayor did NOTHING to carry out that portion of the plan. They left 200,000 low-income resident abandoned and they now blame the Federal Government for not having Scotty beam down a massive logistics effort after a human disaster of their own making.
To: All
Weren't there over a million people in New Orleans to begin with? What is happening to all the people who self-evacuated before the storm? Where are they? (I know not being helped by the Red Cross!) To be honest, I am more upset for the middle class homeowners who weren't already on the dole. They have mortgages, car payments, and more to pay and a lifestyle to lose. What's going to happen to them?
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