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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: hipaatwo

bookmarking post.


3,341 posted on 09/05/2005 10:25:47 PM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: hipaatwo

Sounds like a wholesome family friendly bunch, don't they? /s


3,342 posted on 09/05/2005 10:26:50 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Spktyr
They used city buses to move people to "shelters of last resort" which were NOT prepared ahead of time as opposed

Did you hear Brit Hume tonight saying that those shelters and the food and water WERE the responsibility of NO and LA?

What we've been talking about for days is going to come out this week. We're just ahead of the curve.

6. Through incompetence, stupidity, and laziness, the Democrats left 250,000 people to die.

Their base; and now they are going to stand self-rightously on their corps and blame Bush.

3,343 posted on 09/05/2005 10:27:57 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Soul Seeker

"Ouch! Sounds like one Homeland advisor slammed Timmy pretty good. I like it."

That's Tim Russert and the NYT - bottom feeders. There are many more that can be added to that category.


3,344 posted on 09/05/2005 10:28:32 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him and his administration.)
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To: hipaatwo

Did you get the original post about this off of a thread here on FR?

If not, it needs a thread of its own, IMHO.

But, I was just going to bed when I saw your post about that, and now I am so mad...

I have to go anyway...do you think that presser they plan tomorrow afternoon will be on any of the stations...or links at the head of this thread?


3,345 posted on 09/05/2005 10:31:24 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Howlin

I wonder how much paper shredding has been going on in government offices this week??

I have to say it was a smart tack that Frist used to subdue the Dems on this issue.


3,346 posted on 09/05/2005 10:32:15 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him and his administration.)
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To: Howlin

Movie star couple Kelly Preston and John Travolta stop and visit first responders at the Jefferson Parish Sherrif Operations Center5 in Metairie, Louisiana, near New Orleans. They delivered five tonnes of food for victims of Hurricane Katrina

3,347 posted on 09/05/2005 10:34:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: BurbankKarl

Vinnie Barbarino was too late.


3,348 posted on 09/05/2005 10:35:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: plushaye

I'm sure they have enough confetti for Mardi Gras by now!


3,349 posted on 09/05/2005 10:35:50 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: BurbankKarl

Hurricane Katrina victim George Talley, 28, of Bay St. Louis, shows a triage ticket emergency personnel have been using to classify the seriousness of victim's injuries, Monday, Sept. 5, 2005, in Bay St. Louis, MS. Medical doctors from Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, N.C., treated Talley for a fractured hand by stabilizing it with screws and pins. Doctors told Talley to return in about two weeks to have the pins taken out.

3,350 posted on 09/05/2005 10:36:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: BurbankKarl

I bet he flew that food in on his plane.


3,351 posted on 09/05/2005 10:38:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: hipaatwo
Curtis Muhammad is a veteran Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) organizer and co-founder of CLU.

I did not know that SNCC was still around. The organization goes back to the early 60's and the desegregation protests. The Greensboro,NC, lunch room sit-in was one of them. Distiguished former members include--Mayor Marion Berry, Cong. Elijah Cummings and Julian Bond.

3,352 posted on 09/05/2005 10:38:39 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Awesome!!!


3,353 posted on 09/05/2005 10:39:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: BurbankKarl

3,354 posted on 09/05/2005 10:40:11 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Txsleuth; Howlin

Tx-I can't post it in it's own thread. It's a typepad url.

Here's more Curtis and his buddies. I think this is more than enough for us to know where Curtis stands.



The convergence was to call out to artists, educators, and organizers to share ideas and work in building a movement for social change. Events began Friday night at the Tulane Diboll conference center. Talvin Wilks of New World Theatre at UMASS welcomed the participants and explained the purpose of the convergence. Wilks talked the convergence’s history. In October of 2003, artists and organizers met in Flint, Michigan at the Activating Democracy Conference. There Grace Lee Boggs spoke on the need for collaboration of artists, organizers, and educators in movement building. New Orleanians, Curtis Muhammad and John O’Neal who work with The Colorlines project proposed convening in New Orleans in 2004.


Following Wilks, key note speaker Bill Fletcher, Jr., of TransAfrica Forum took the floor on the topic of movement building. Bill Fletcher, who has extensive background in organized labor, now works with TransAfrica Forum. TransAfrica Forum, according to their website, is “a non-profit organization dedicated to educating the general public – particularly African Americans – on the economic, political and moral ramifications of U.S. foreign policy as it affects Africa and the Diaspora in the Caribbean and Latin America.” Fletcher challenged progressives to participate in the struggle, not just observe it. Progressive organizers, artists, and educators need to address the sexism, racism, and classism in their work, to understand their middle class privileges and social barriers, to be a voice with the struggle and not for it. Fletcher also described the differences and similarities between Clintonian neo-liberal “first among equals” capitalism and Bush and company’s “cowboy”policies. “Cowboy” capitalism, according the Fletcher, can be summed up in four points:
a) US is a capitalist nation, and shall maintain its supremacy having no competition like the USSR during the Cold War.
b) Everyone is to be capitalist, there are to be no other economic systems but capitalism, under the supremacy of the U.S.
c) If you don’t agree, you are a terrorist.
d) The U.S. has the right to declare war on those we deem terrorists.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:igK8AjEn1ekJ:nola.indymedia.org/print.php%3Fid%3D1042++%22Curtis+Muhammad%22+louisiana&hl=en


3,355 posted on 09/05/2005 10:41:36 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo; Txsleuth

I agree with TxSleuth; That needs it's own thread.


3,356 posted on 09/05/2005 10:41:55 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Tarheel

I guess I need to reasearch no longer :-). That's all I needed to know.


3,357 posted on 09/05/2005 10:42:37 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: gpapa

Thanks for a very interesting post. There's just so much I don't know about the procedures of government -- it helps to have you and others here at FR to explain and sort it out.

I agree with you on the cookie jar concept. Somehow we Americans need to break away from so much dependence, and even simply thoughts of dependence, on the Federal government to solve all problems. I do think through the years the Fed has itself greatly created this problem. Hopefully, we can all gain from the lessons learned from watching the Katrina events.


3,358 posted on 09/05/2005 10:42:48 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: gpapa
IMHO: The Federal Government is not a bottomless cookie jar, whereby each State can whine to the Feds., saying over and over again, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. The Governors and officials in those States are responsible for the security of their citizens. The Federal Government can help whenever it can, but the Governors of the respective States must take responsibility for their own actions. If you can't stand the heat, try some other line of work like baking cookies.

Bump!

3,359 posted on 09/05/2005 10:44:35 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Txsleuth
As far as I am concerned, this is a HUGH slap in the face of all of the people in Texas and other states that have extended a helping hand without expectation of anything in return.

Guess they are counting on everyone to be 'PC' and go along with their Race Card tactic.

What they don't realize is that are turning off a lot of moderate, apolitical, and independent types. Not to mention some of their very own constituency. At least that's been my experience over the past week.

The majority of the population isn't buying what they are selling.

3,360 posted on 09/05/2005 10:45:25 PM PDT by falpro
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