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To: infidel dog

As far as hammer & sickle, effectively we did (& still do).

Remember that FDR's 'solution' to the depression was the alphabet soup of gov't run, collectivist & socialist organizations that sought to control every aspect of business & agriculture. Legacies of farm supports, restrictions on what can be grown, labor unions, gov't intervention in the economy are with us today.

When the supreme court ruled against some of his measures, his planned response was to pack the supreme court. Unfortunately, the SC backed down. Kelo is a direct result of this unconstitutional legacy.

Remember also the context of the post-12/07 world. America is attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor, so our main target becomes Germany (who coincidentally had launch a major attack on mother Russia 6 months earlier).




However, despite Roosevelt & his advisors being obviously communist or openly symps (perhaps at best "naive"), it probably WAS the best deal that could be gotten at Yalta.

The Red armed forces were much larger and stronger than ours (compare man power of the Eastern Front vs. Western Front). Their tanks were better (T-34 could take a Panther or a Tiger sraight up, the Sherman needed a 4 - 5 tank advantage). Their artillery was more numerous (always a Russian strong point) and they had an effective assult rocket capability. Tactical air would be about evenly matched. The Red army had a three year advantage in battle field experience to draw upon that our forces were still learning (our only main battles after D-Day period were the Ardennes & Hurtigen forest [both of which resulted in allied victories but at a high cost] and the Arnham disaster).

The only clear advantage that we had was in strategic air forces. However, the Russian targets would have been out of range of the B-17s & B-24s in England & Italy. We would have had to reallocate B-29s from the Far East to strike at the Russian industrial base. There would have been major work needed to lengthen the run ways to support the newer aircraft.

Although I am a fan of Patton, he would have come out second best for the reasons listed above. The main Soviet thrust over the North German plain would have hit Montgomery. Monty couldn't best the German's second string in North Africa without an overwhelming superiority in men & machines. He would have been over run quickly by the Soviet varsity (followed by a retreat to the port of Antwerp). The front lines would probably have stabilized in the lower Rhine with the Americans perhaps holding onto the highlands in Hessen & Bavaria.



The most charitable thing that has been said about Roosevely at the conference is that he was a tired, dying man who hoped for a better world.


4 posted on 09/04/2005 12:22:35 PM PDT by Casekirchen (If allah is just another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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To: Casekirchen

Here's when we should have kept moving east

The first US-USSR Battle

The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the 339th Infantry Regiment at Toulgas (11/11/1918) - Mar. 14th, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1362226/posts

It was the USA who lead the victory over Germany.
Not only did we give them everything from airplanes to A-bombs. But also gave them all the German battle plans. gotten from our breaking the Japanese purple code. ( yes the Japanese ) ( a good read on this is the book:
Marching Orders
Bruce Lee 1995 )
And
Hitler And the SS

One of the reasons The German Army advanced so fast. Is at first the people looked at Hitler as there savior & liberator from Stalin. So did not fight and “ stuck there bayonets in the snow” .
The dumb SS after there capture started shooting them and sent the off to the camps.
So they had a choice die under Hitler or live under Stalin. And started to fight back.
If the Germans had treated these people as liberated people. They would have picked up there arms and lead the way to Moscow.

Not only would this had happend. We had the bomb and the will & means to use it.

Uncle Joe was no fool He knew that not only had the US won the war in Europe and Japan But was able to supply England and himself and have plenty left over.


10 posted on 09/04/2005 6:07:18 PM PDT by quietolong
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