Posted on 09/02/2005 11:05:34 PM PDT by doug from upland
Bush used that as a sideways slam at the NOers. Told a reporter that the Coast Guard (Fed Controlled) were rescuing people right away.
Time to rebuild Biloxi as the home of American Jazz.
Amen. You have got it. And I am definately not saying that Black people, or White females are incompetent. Liberal dims are!
Like you accept all of the responsibility, but none of the blame.
barbra ann
Attn MSM Bush, (not President Bush) acted illegily again!!! I know the 4th ID went there as I saw the convoy as it came down IH-10
barbra ann
Like LBJ I guess, spent his entire life with his nose stuck in the public trough.
barbra ann
Basic weakness of" vox populi". Depends on who has the loudest "vox" and what the chief issue was during the election and the criteria of" qualification" by the majority.
barbra ann
Regardless of the state, the National Guard is under the command of the respective Governor. It would be beyond extraordinary for it to act outside the Governor's direct command. That would include mustering the force, orders for movement, assignment of tasks, and return to garrison/release.
All signs point to the information in Species8472 reply 34 as right on. Orders from the Governor of LA to her Adjutant General will be a matter of public record. Orders would be available through the Adjutant General's office. Lack or such public record would indicate no orders were provided.
I'll don't know if I'm willing to take the time to critique LA Emergency Plans, but the basis for all this should be spelled out in documents linked by Wild Irish Rogue reply 35. A quick review of the New Orleans evacuation plans reveal a concept plan only when an operational plan was needed. For example, the plan utterly fails to highlight limiting factors (weak links). For example: Directs increased attention to critical roadway intersections without naming them. Directs NOPD to door-to-door notify and recover disabled persons not able to evac on their own - obviously never tested and failed in this attempt. Just as telling, check this wikipedia link including a Gov Blanco quote to get a taste of how "off the cuff" this whole operation was: The same morning of August 29, 2005, during an interview on ABC news, Governor Kathleen Blanco called the Superdome shelter strategy an "experiment", when asked if it could hold the storm or the flood.
Finally, did you see this earlier FR post?
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation. links this excellent cached CNN article New Orleans Orders Evacuation, Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph Sunday, 28Aug2005 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT). Post apocalypse, its fully indicting of NO Mayor and LA Governor...
Because he is a Republican and the MSM are notorious liars. I talked to a friend in Louisiana today and she was wanting someone to tell the nation the truth...New Orleans has always been run by Democrats as has a large percentage of the state. Gov. Blanco is out of her element, and Nagin is a 'blowhard' who is a total embarrassment to the state. Had it not been for President Bush asking them to order a mandate evacuation, the situation would have been far worse. Nagin needs to explain why school buses sat there and were ruined by the flood instead of being used to evacuate the poor in New Orleans before Katrina came ashore and the levees broke.
The JAG folks claim that despite its popularity/frequency of use, there is no such thing that US Armed Forces can invoke. They (US fed forces) can be ordered in to establish control, but there is no doctrinal "thing" called martial law for them to enforce.
It's a wierdness.
This woman is going to go down in history as one of the most incompotent ditzhead to ever hold elective office. She wasn't proactive. She was weepy. She was.....a typical Democrat.
Now you are saying Bush ordered the mandatory evacuation. Does that mean you support Government Officials forcing people out of their home at the point of a gun?
See 108
I don't support the government forcing citizens out of their homes at gunpoint. Then I don't support them bitching about their situation that they have created.
After the disaster they then expect the government to come in and save their sorry ass 5 minutes after the disaster hit. If we have given a mandatory evacuation, AND made resources available to get them out, it should be made very clear that they have waived any claims against the government. They can hire a private search and rescue team to save their stupid asses.
This multi-generational dependence on government created by our politicians has come home to roost. It has come home to roost in a BIG way right in our faces in this NO situation.
"Where do I go?" "How do I get there" "Where's my food and water?" "Why can't I have a hot meal?" "The toilet paper is TOO scratchy" "Where's my free cheese?"
It is too bad that the mandatory evacuation didn't go out Saturday morning. 24 hours could have made a hell of a difference to those that got stuck on the interstate and had to turn around.
I think there's definitely some of that involved.
One of the reasons that there will never be a definitive accounting for all this is that virtually the entire city government of NO is black, and therefore has to be handled with kid gloves. Sad, because of course the majority of those they failed were also black.
At first I was hoping that this obvious failure might prompt black "leaders" to forget their obsession with race and simply call for law and order and efficiency in NO, but obviously, they're in full "blame the man" mode now and will never look at the reality of the situation and how it could be fixed.
They should also be firmly repudiating the thugs that took over the city and making it clear that most of the black people of NO behaved themselves well and that the thugs are not representative. Instead they're rationalizing and excusing the thugs' behavior.
It would be really nice if some of these "black leaders" were really concerned about black people.
She did nothing :-)
(I stiil like yours better)
Bush then could have been racist AND anti-woman at the same time.
"Why", Katie would ask, "are people saying that President Bush is afraid of strong women?"
#1-It's not named FECA - Federal Emergency Coordinating Agency.
#2 - Since 9/11, they have spent multi-tens of billions of dollars, which expenditure has probably been wasted. It does not cost tens of billions of dollars to have one to three pretty boys ready to give press briefings on Federal-state partnerships.
#3 - The most probable post 9/11 scenario requiring Federal emergency management (that's their name) is an attack rendering an urban area uninhabitable and requiring relocation of a large population to contiguous or non-contiguous States. There does not appear to be any Federal relo plan, Texas, God bless 'em, has done most of the heavy lifting here.
Of course, it goes without saying that Governor Blanco should be impeached unless she takes the honorable way out (improbable at best). I'm not so sure how much responsibility Nagin bears, although I'd be happy to see him walk the plank as well.
But I'm very sceptical that our huge FEMA expenditures post 9/11 have been well spent, and I'd like Bush to accept a few resignations there pour encourager les autres.
"But I guess I'm preaching to the choir." You are and you are absolutely RIGHT.
The Govt. Bailed the victims out of the Missori Floods and they should also Bail the People out of the New Orleans flood.
I do not believe it was her motive, but, if she had called the NG in early and the federal gov't had been able to act sooner, Bush would have gotten credit for fast action and rescuing many more people.
This way, Bush looks bad even though it is not his fault.
I must not don my tinfoil hat and believe any Democrat would think that way.
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