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Three Cheers For "Price Gougers"
TechCentralStation ^ | September 2, 205 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 09/02/2005 10:05:18 PM PDT by NonZeroSum

With every disaster or crisis, it seems that the public, press and politicians require a remedial course in Economics 101. In fact, apparently we need an ongoing educational campaign even when there is no catastrophe, as demonstrated by the recent foolish legislation in the state of Hawaii to cap wholesale fuel prices. Note the subhead in the linked story: "Some analysts warn move may spur supply problems."

Really? Only "some"? Maybe they need to be more careful about which "analysts" they listen to. Whatever would we do without those other "analysts"?

Imagine the headlines, "Legislature Mandates Pi To Equal 3.00000 -- Some Analysts Warn Move May Spur Engineering Problems," or "King Canute Commands Tide To Recede -- Some Analysts Warn Move May Spur Wet Footwear Problems." What would we think of the analysts who thought that the proposed mandates were no problem, perfectly in consonance with the laws of physics and human nature? Even most people with typical journalism educations would recognize such heads and subheads as the jokes they are, but somehow when it comes to basic economics, the laws of supply and demand, and the function of prices in a market economy bizarrely remain subjects for public debate.

I write this little essay sadly, knowing that it's been written many times before, and that it will have to be written many times again, if history is any judge. It's hard enough to watch all of the suffering of these apocalyptic events on the Gulf Coast without having to contemplate as well the compounding of the problems that will be achieved in future days by editorial writers and public officials with their calls for defiance of economic reality. I grind my teeth in frustration at all of the economic damage that will continue to be wrought by well-meaning but economically ignorant people as they attempt to circumvent the most efficient means of delivering products and services to those areas in which they are needed most -- the market, with its pricing mechanisms.

Let's recap, briefly, for those who never took the class, or have forgotten it. It's really simple. In any locality, when the supply of a particular item is reduced with no change in demand, or the demand for it increased with no change in supply, or supply is decreased with a demand increase, prices will go up.

This is a signal to the market. To those demanding the product, it is a signal that the supply is relatively short, and that they should perhaps rethink the level of their demand, if possible. To the suppliers, it is a signal that more of the resources must be brought to market. In both cases, it will result in a change in behavior on both parties that will restore the balance between supply and demand. Moreover, it does so in a useful, quantitative way. It tells the supplier how much expense, risk and effort she should expend to increase the supply. This calculation may even bring new suppliers into the market. It also indicates the degree to which it is sensible for the consumer to change their demand. When by fiat we pretend that the price has not gone up, it's like covering up the signposts, and we shouldn't be surprised when those supplying no longer attempt to increase the supply, and those demanding can't be bothered to reduce their usage of that particular commodity.

What does this mean in the current situation?

Let us ignore for the moment the horrific situation in the worst-hit areas, in which first-worlders have been thrust into the third world literally overnight, many with no place to even sleep, let alone have access to food, water and other necessities or money with which to purchase them. In some of the other areas, homes are damaged, but intact and dry, and people have cash. Commodities like gasoline, perishable food and ice are in short supply. In fact, gasoline prices are rising across the nation, in response to the sudden reduction in refinery capacity on the Gulf Coast.

Consider -- if a gas station owner has gas, someone has to decide who gets it. If the price remains at pre-hurricane levels, many will fill their tanks, because they can afford to do so, against the chance (and even likelihood) that gas will later become completely unavailable (a self-fulfilling prophecy if the price is not allowed to rise). Many will do so even if they have no immediate need for it. But after the first few people do this, the gas will be gone, and none will be available for those who come after, because it's now tied up in the gas tanks of those who didn't really need it. Those who didn't get any may include emergency workers, or truck drivers who need it to go out and find other goods to bring in. It is likely worth more to them, but they didn't get it, because the price was artificially fixed. Moreover, had the price been allowed to rise, they would have been able to afford it, because they would have been able to demand more resources with which to pay for it -- the emergency worker might have had aid from local agencies to pay for it, or the truck driver might have been willing to make the investment in order to recover it by bringing in necessary goods (assuming, of course, that prices on those weren't capped).

Similarly, if ice prices rise to the market, the man who needs to keep his insulin cold for his diabetes treatment will place a higher value on it than the man who wants to keep his beer cold, and will have a better chance of getting it. The man who might rent two hotel rooms for his family for additional comfort might, in the face of appropriately higher prices, inconvenience himself and only get one, releasing one for another whole family.

This works for the supply side as well. Making and transporting ice costs money. When the local ice plant is out of commission, it has to be brought in from other locations, in refrigerated trucks, at higher gasoline costs. Who would bother to take the trouble, expense and risk to deliver it at a loss when they can only get the same price for it as before the hurricane?

Of course, some argue that prices shouldn't go up for stock on hand because the cost didn't go up. After all, the gas station owner is selling gas that he already paid for at pre-hurricane wholesale prices. Why should he make "obscene profits," taking advantage of a situation by jacking up the price when his price hasn't changed? But in reality his prices have already changed. He will have to replace the gas that he sells, and he knows, either indirectly because he understands the supply situation, or directly because he's gotten a call from his supplier, that the cost of his next tank load will be dramatically higher. In order to pay for it, he has to get as much as possible for the stock he has on hand, which means as much as the market will bear against his competition, if he has any. If he doesn't have any, then he just has to guess.

But won't some people make "unfair" profits from such "greed"?

Sure. Sometimes life isn't fair. We can't eliminate unfairness from life -- at best we can minimize it. But what's more unfair -- someone who supplies a community with needed goods while making a profit (at some financial, and even personal risk, given the breakdown of civil law in many areas, in which shipments can be hijacked), or someone who overpurchases and hoards a commodity because the price doesn't reflect the demand and supply? Ice at three dollars a bag doesn't do one much good if there are no bags available at that price.

The response to this, in turn, is that the solution is rationing. But is it more fair to have a bureaucrat, perhaps unfamiliar with the needs of the local community, making decisions about who should get scarce goods? Does the local commissar understand the market better than the market? We can recognize that when prices are high, some people of modest means may not get essential goods. A better solution for this is not to subsidize prices, which misallocate the resources due to the false market signals, but to subsidize the individuals who need help, by giving them cash or vouchers (somewhat akin to the food stamp program).

Price "gouging" is purely in the mind of the beholder, and there's no way to distinguish between it and the necessary signals that the market must have to ensure the most efficient use of resources. The price "gougers" are (often, if not always) the people who will have incentives to satisfy market needs as quickly as possible, and ensure that the economic recovery will occur. That some people may "unfairly" take advantage of this is a price we have to pay, and it's a small one compared to the alternative.

There has been much discussion recently (much of it foolish) of how this disaster was a result of "fooling mother nature," whether in the absurdity of asking whether or not it's a result of not acquiescing to the unjustifiable damage to our economy that would have resulted from the Kyoto Treaty, to the more sensible questions of how much effort we should expend to continue to divert the natural course of the greatest river on our continent. To whatever degree that's true, let us not compound the damage, and slow the recovery from it, by attempting to fool mother economics.


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KEYWORDS: demand; economics; gasprices; markets; price; pricegouging; suppy; vultures
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To: flaglady47

Hey, since you're on again, I just want to ask you once more. Maybe you got busy and it slipped your mind. But I asked you a direct question in post #249 over 12 hours ago and I only got an insult for an answer.

I know, maybe I was expecting too much of you to answer a direct question, but I thought I'd try it again.

Here we go, copied and pasted from post #249:




1: Would you rather be able to buy gas at $3.50 a gallon, or have no gas to buy at $2.50 a gallon.

2. Please explain your brilliant anti-gouging proposal, and explain exactly how you would legally define gouging, and what penalties you would set for someone convicted of it.

Also explain how you would set up your system to prevent the shortages, gas lines, and other problems that always occur when you set artificial price caps.




Now, seeing as there are people in florida waiting in vain for non-gouging gas, citing "I'm for whatever governor bush is doing" doesn't really satisfy the question, since it doesn't prevent shortages.

So somebody as brilliant as you must be able to devise a system of price caps (which is what anti-gouging laws essentially are) that will help consumers and prevent gas shortages.

I'll be waiting for your answer, along with the rest of the freedom minded individuals you've insulted on this board.


321 posted on 09/04/2005 12:43:29 AM PDT by flashbunny (Defending the free market on free republic is like having to defend the flag at a VFW convention.)
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To: flashbunny

I'll be waiting for your answer, along with the rest of the freedom minded individuals you've insulted on this board.

Here's my answer. Buzz off. You're like sticky glue. It's impossible to shake you. Go affix yourself to someone better suited to put up with your overlarge ego and, to use a word you repeat over and over, your "childish" rants. May a better person than I put up with your economic theory 101. Glad you don't teach. But you sure do preach.


322 posted on 09/04/2005 1:09:37 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: flashbunny
:sarcasm

Okay, flashbunny. Since no other socialists/communists are coming up with ideas, I'll play the socialist/communist for you.

1: Would you rather be able to buy gas at $3.50 a gallon, or have no gas to buy at $2.50 a gallon.

If I threaten to have you arrested, I'll have gas at $2.50 a gallon. Hell, I'll have gas at less than $1.00 a gallon, where it use to be.

2. Please explain your brilliant anti-gouging proposal, and explain exactly how you would legally define gouging, and what penalties you would set for someone convicted of it.

Anti-gouging will be legally defined as a price that is too high. Is that clear enough for you? If someone is found to be committing the crime of gouging somebody, that person will be shot and all his/her property will be confiscated.

Also explain how you would set up your system to prevent the shortages, gas lines, and other problems that always occur when you set artificial price caps.

Eliminating shortages is pretty straighforward. In the example of a gas station, the gas station owner must maintain a supply of gasoline at all times. Otherwise, the owner will be arrested.

Gas lines will be prevented by an equally simple method. If there is one car waiting to get gas, that motorist will be arrested and his car will be confiscated.

:esarcasm

323 posted on 09/04/2005 1:38:50 AM PDT by OCgolfer
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To: flaglady47

Amazing you define freedom as having the ability to buy whatever commodity at whatever price you deem appropriate, but would deny the person selling that commodity the freedom to set his or her own price.


324 posted on 09/04/2005 6:11:37 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: OCgolfer

You forgot the show trial on TV of the enemy of the state. After all, the legal niceties must be observed.


325 posted on 09/04/2005 6:12:49 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: flaglady47

You didn't define gouging. You gave an example based on your subjective opinion of what you think is gouging. Under your rules, if someone goes into a hotel, and thinks $80 is to high, they can scream "gouging."

By the way, during the Kentucky Derby, hotel rooms that normally sell for $80 will climb to over $200.


326 posted on 09/04/2005 6:23:11 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: staytrue
A monopoly that wasn't. Too temporary. And the Constitution, itself, recognizes monopolies and claims they have a benefit. Those monopolies extolled by the US Constitution? Grants of patent and copyright.

That is -- monopolies are not "bad". Not bad or good. Depends on the situation and circumstance.

327 posted on 09/04/2005 6:53:46 AM PDT by bvw
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To: flaglady47

Well, a number of Nobel laureates in economics and great economic teachers speak of the free market versus price controls the same way as flashbunny.


328 posted on 09/04/2005 6:56:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: flaglady47
A great policy when the motel owners, so fined or jailed go out of business. Wonderful! No rooms at all then. And NO PRICE GOUGING EITHER!
329 posted on 09/04/2005 6:59:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: NonZeroSum

I spent 30 minutes trying to explain this concept to my brother yesterday. I still don't think he gets it.


330 posted on 09/04/2005 7:09:04 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Moonman62
The state law in Florida says a price increase has to be unconscionable. It's rare for a case to be prosecuted, but it does happen.

Who gets to decide what is unconscionable? These laws are bad. The market will decide.

331 posted on 09/04/2005 7:11:19 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Moonman62
Florida has had an anti-gouging law since Andrew and we haven't seen the slippery slope you're talking about. There does seem to be a decrease in scum of the earth who show up to take advantage of people, though.

What there will be a decrease of is people willing to help out next time a disaster hits Florida.

332 posted on 09/04/2005 7:13:13 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Moonman62

They work well all of the time. Price caps guarantee the supply to cease to exist when demand skyrockets.


333 posted on 09/04/2005 7:15:14 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: The Red Zone

Making up your argument as you go?


334 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:53 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: The Red Zone
Florida has had an anti-gouging law since Andrew and we haven't seen the slippery slope you're talking about. There does seem to be a decrease in scum of the earth who show up to take advantage of people, though.

Price spikes dramatically lowers the number of people who are able to hoard goods. price caps cause supplies to run out. Price spikes that are dictated by the free market eliminate supply problems.

335 posted on 09/04/2005 7:18:45 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: The Red Zone
Generally, it's illegal to sleep more in a hotel room than it has beds for.

It happens every day. Hotels usually don't care unless their is a party going on in the room.

336 posted on 09/04/2005 7:24:44 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Moonman62; OCgolfer
I see you only believe in the free market as long as it is a catastrophe. While it may sound good it does not work in reality. The laws of supply and demand always apply. It is that attitude that makes things worse and not better.

BTW, if a person tries to attack me because they were too stupid not to prepare. Then they will take their eternal celestrial dirt nap when they come face to face with my 45. Believe me I have no sympathy removing a bad gene from the gene pool.
337 posted on 09/04/2005 8:02:22 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: flashbunny
1: Would you rather be able to buy gas at $3.50 a gallon, or have no gas to buy at $2.50 a gallon.

Your question is a false premise as this is not the only situation that comes up. Suppose a gas station owner has full tanks and enough gas for everyone. The people who want to buy gas, must buy from him in a short amount of time before the hurricane hits or be left in new orleans. The station owner can take advantage of this situation by gouging, charging far more than a non emergency non life threatening marketplace situation.

In a non emergency situation, if the owner gouges, other people will build a gas station next to him and take his customers. This is not what happens in a emergency situation.

338 posted on 09/04/2005 8:06:26 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Sprite518
The laws of supply and demand always apply.

They almost always apply. Never say never and never say always.

339 posted on 09/04/2005 8:07:35 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: bvw
Those monopolies extolled by the US Constitution? Grants of patent and copyright.

The monopolies of patent and copyright are monopolies and highly regulated. That is they expire and "your property" is given over to the public domain.

340 posted on 09/04/2005 8:14:04 AM PDT by staytrue
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