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1 posted on 09/01/2005 4:54:47 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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2 posted on 09/01/2005 4:55:23 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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“We’re tired of being treated like second-class citizens,” said Thomas Hill, state party chairman.

Right.

Shouldn't they actually be third? Or is it fourth?

Dan

3 posted on 09/01/2005 4:55:51 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: freepatriot32

The legislature doesn't have to allow ballot access to every fly-by-night group that comes along. If they can't come up with the signatures, then it verifies they are insignificant.

That's why there are write-ins.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 5:25:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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By definition, I guess most Libertarian parties aren't what I'd call "regimented". But, I tried to call them up in '04 and not only were they worthless, but their website was "under construction" every time I looked. In an election year!

I'm guessing competence had something to do with this.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 5:27:35 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke
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Get the signatures and there's no problem. 75,000 in a state of 8 million. Come on people.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 5:51:15 PM PDT by billybudd
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And they wonder why the other independents laugh at them.


18 posted on 09/01/2005 6:55:05 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ON THE BALLOT!!!!!


OUR 1% SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WRITE OUR NAMES IN (if they can remember them, and are not too high, fried or stoned)


Pathetic losertarians.


19 posted on 09/01/2005 6:55:19 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Warning: Exposure to the SON may PREVENT burning.)
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13,000 is a lot of people. NC laws sound shady to me.


20 posted on 09/01/2005 8:16:12 PM PDT by rasblue (Vive le libre Alberta!)
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22 posted on 09/02/2005 4:02:50 AM PDT by Alia
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Fer cryin' out loud, Libertarians. You're asking the court to do just what we've been blasting them for: legislate from the bench! Work to get the law changed by the legislature to be more reasonable if you don't like it. Don't go in asking a judge to ignore a properly enacted statute.
35 posted on 09/02/2005 7:48:31 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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The child molesters party

A characteristic shared by the intellectuals of the looter persuasion and their "libertarian" comrades is the tendency to feign incomprehension when faced with uncomfortable facts. Socialists act as though you are speaking a foreign language when you bring up the initiation of force in connection with their calls for taxation and confiscation of property. Libertarians do the same when questioned about their party's call for repeal of child-molestation laws.

The following quotes from published libertarian platforms will make it explicitly clear that the legalization of child molestation is part and parcel of the Libertarian Party code.

From the 1982 Platform of the Libertarian Party:

"In particular we advocate:
b. The repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual relations, including prostitution and solicitation, and the cessation of state oppression and harassment of homosexual men and women, that they, at last, be accorded their full rights as individuals."

"No individual rights should be denied or abridged by the laws of the United States or any state or locality on account of sex, race, color, creed, age, national origin or sexual preference."

"We believe that 'children' are human beings and, as such, have the same rights as any other human beings. Any reference in this Platform to the rights of human beings includes children."

"We regard the tragedies caused by unplanned, unwanted pregnancies to be aggravated, if not created, by government policies of censorship, restriction, regulation and prohibition. Therefore we call for the repeal of all laws which restrict anyone, including children, from engaging in voluntary exchanges of goods, services or information regarding human sexuality, reproduction, birth control, or related medical or biological technologies."

The 1986 platform preserved the above-cited language, but greatly expanded the "Children's Rights" article to include the following:

"We oppose all legally created or sanctioned discrimination against (or in favor of) children, just as we oppose government discrimination directed at any other artificially defined sub- category of human beings."

"We also support the repeal of all laws establishing any category of crimes applicable to children for which adults would not be similarly vulnerable, such as curfew, smoking and alcoholic beverage laws, and other status offenses. (...) We seek the repeal of all 'children's codes' of statutes which abridge due process protections for young people."

"Children should always have the right to establish their maturity by assuming administration and protection of their own rights, ending dependency upon their parents or other guardians and assuming all the responsibilities of adulthood."

These quotes make it clear to any thinking person that the Libertarian Party deems the recruiting of, say, six-year-old boys and girls into a life of prostitution, heterosexual or otherwise, an exercise of something the platform never defines - yet nevertheless refers to as "individual rights." Indeed, should the parents of children so used dare to question a procurer's "right" to engage their children in such a manner, let them read carefully before venturing to lift a finger to interfere. The Libertarian Platform (both versions) also reads:

"We condemn the attempts by parents or any others -- via kidnappings, conservatorships, or instruction under confinement - - to force children to conform to their parent's or any others' religious views."

The child-molester's "right" to entice children into "voluntary" sexual performances is defended at every turn in the platform. If the child is baited with candy rather than raped by outright physical force, the Libertarian pederast can declare the event a "consensual sexual relation," or a "voluntary exchange of goods and services regarding human sexuality," or even cite the child's "assumption" of the "administration and protection of its own rights." After all, the platform plainly describes the distinction between a fully-formed, rational adult and a preadolescent child as an "artificially defined subcategory of human beings." As for the parents, any attempt to interfere, especially if based on religious convictions, is classed as "kidnapping," a practice banned by force of Libertarian law.

The essential feature which distinguishes children from adults -a feature which the Libertarian platform eschews- is rational competence. Capitalist ethics are based on man's life as the fundamental standard of value, and on his rational faculty as the essential requirement for the preservation of that value. Capitalists recognize that individual rights are a moral principle. Libertarians, to the contrary, state that their "exclusion of moral approval or disapproval is deliberate" [!]. This attitude is eloquently underscored by the platform's perfidious distortion of truth.

In the real world, laws exist which bar adults from selling alcohol, tobacco, and the like to children. The Libertarian Party platform distorts the relationship and presents it as a law directed at children forbidding them to buy those substances, then leaps to the defense of "due process protections for young people." But then, respect for the truth is not something one expects from an organization having a "deliberate" policy of destroying moral distinctions.

64 posted on 09/03/2005 7:09:00 AM PDT by Stepan12
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I'm a libertarian in everything but name. Rules are rules, though. They didn't make the cut; they either have to drum up more support or live with it.


71 posted on 09/06/2005 12:26:30 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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