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To: GSlob

Yup, i post quickly,don`t give a rats A** about typos and laff in the face of dogmatic darwinists WHO HAVE YET TO DEMONSTRATE THE SPONTANEOUS ORGANIZATION OF A PROTEIN and who fall back on the "you made typos so your whole arguement is void an moot" debate tactic.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 9:03:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Everyone against the evolution - raise your tails and throw a coconut at the vote counter.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 9:10:53 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Para-Ord.45

"WHO HAVE YET TO DEMONSTRATE THE SPONTANEOUS ORGANIZATION OF A PROTEIN"

You have yet to explain how the designer came to exist, the structure of the designer, the thought processes of the designer, the way the designer interacts with the universe and exactly which things the designer designed.


11 posted on 09/01/2005 9:20:23 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: Para-Ord.45
dogmatic darwinists WHO HAVE YET TO DEMONSTRATE THE SPONTANEOUS ORGANIZATION OF A PROTEIN

What does this even mean? I don't understand your complaint here. You understand that protein folding is obviously deterministic (even if not entirely understood or predictable) right? Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that a given primary structure (the end to end sequence of amino acids) necessarily produces a certain tertiary structure (the three dimensional form, and thereby the function, of the protein).

What does "spontaneous organization" mean when referring to a deterministic process like this?

Also, I know that new proteins are produced (i.e. for commercial purposes or in biomed research) by means of artificial selection of randomized primary sequences. For example you throw out variants that fail to bond, or bond less tightly, to a target molecule. There's nothing "spontaneous" about this process, except that random variation and selection are utilized and entirely new proteins are created.

74 posted on 09/01/2005 12:04:09 PM PDT by Stultis
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