[uncbob]

No, but, helpfully, they do lend additional credence to my original point about the fallen nature of humanity.

You think fallen nature is something new over the last 30 years

[MMkennedy]

"You think fallen nature is something new over the last 30 years"

Uh...Do you actually read before you post or do you just post half-cocked?

My point was twofold. One: humanity is fallen. Two: Public Policy over the last 30 years has served to weaken the moral/religious restraints that restrain fallen nature.