Posted on 08/31/2005 2:03:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
I think it was early over on the other thread. I'ma gonna go lookin for it!
Unfortunately, given the consequences, Arnold's misfortunes could end up being an expensive form of entertainment.
"Sqirminator."
35 posted on 09/02/2005 4:23:30 PM PDT by FOG724
Not having fun at all. And don't I know that this was an expensive experiment.
Squirminator.
Well shut my mouth and call me corn pone... he actaully did what he said he was going to do - He actually ACCOMPLISHED and was able to FOLLOW-THROUGH on what he said - unlike politicians who spend DECADES on a public paycheck and remain ineffectual, as a businessman he knows what it takes to get things done. Good for him !
I guess then that you suppor all of what is in this list. That makes you, effectively, a Democrat.
"The second assumption is that Proposition 58 “tears up the credit cards” to assure the state never borrows to balance its budget again. Unfortunately, it doesn’t. Proposition 58 made no practical change in current law beyond suspending the oldest provision of the state constitution that for 154 years has prevented exactly the kind of borrowing that Proposition 57 now begins.
"Under the “Balanced Budget Amendment,” a balanced budget is whatever the legislature says it is. Every one of the budgets that got California into financial difficulty was defined by the legislature as “balanced.” California’s budget deficits are the result of uncontrolled spending and dishonest accounting -- and the short-term borrowing to cover them -- and Proposition 58 does nothing to change that."
"I guess then that you suppor all of what is in this list."
I take it you also wrongly guessed that McClintock had a chance of winning ?
That's part of the problem with fanatics - they HAVE to find a slot to put people in, even if they have to assume or make up things.
Let me ask yuu the same simple question, noone seems to have the courage to answer -
Using 20/20 hindsight, would you prefer that Davis had not been recalled, or Bustamente had been elected over Arnold ?
So, you admit voting for a closet Democrat in order to "win"?
What did you win? What benefit was there? If it was just to beat Bustamante, you blew it, because McClintock would have beaten Bustamante anyway, one to one.
That's part of the problem with fanatics - they HAVE to find a slot to put people in, even if they have to assume or make up things.
You call conservatives "fanatics" and then accuse us of putting you in a slot?
Using 20/20 hindsight, would you prefer that Davis had not been recalled, or Bustamente had been elected over Arnold ?
I would prefer that we had three years of a wounded Davis fighting opposition tooth an nail and taking the Democrats in the legislature down with him to eight years of Arnold with Republicans getting the credit for putting the State into bankruptcy. There was no chance of Bustamante getting elected. That was a strawman on the part of Republican corporate socialists, of which you quite apparently approve.
"So, you admit voting for a closet Democrat in order to "win"? "
No, I voted for the Republican candidate who actually had a chance to win.
"You call conservatives "fanatics" and then accuse us of putting you in a slot?
Nope - the overwhelming majority of Conservatives are not fanatics.
"I would prefer that we had three years of a wounded Davis fighting opposition tooth an nail ..."
I appreciate your honesty - does this mean you would have followed your preference and voted FOR Davis ?
I have to disagree regarding his being "wounded" - conversely, I think he would ahve been embolded as there would have been NO chance of a second recall being mounted.
He will run unless a script with big bucks attached for Terminator 4 crosses his desk.
More fables do your arguments no service.
Candidate Party Votes Percent
* Tom McClintock Republican 226,225 61.0%
Paul Joseph Graber Democratic 144,800 39.0%
"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"
September 25-27
Registered Voters
McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%
Probable Voters
McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%
McClintock now enjoys a higher favorability rating in California than does Arnold.
Nope - the overwhelming majority of Conservatives are not fanatics.
Is THAT why Dick Riordan lost to Bill Simon by fourteen points? Who knew? The ONLY reason we are even having this discussion is that 1.6 million Republicans stayed home in 1992, after the backstabbing Simon got from his own Party leadership. Even with that, he lost by only 325,000 votes.
You see, the only fanatics in the CRP are the RINOs who would rather lose to a Democrat than support a duly nominated conservative candidate.
I appreciate your honesty - does this mean you would have followed your preference and voted FOR Davis ?
I voted for McClintock and against the recall.
I have to disagree regarding his being "wounded" - conversely, I think he would ahve been embolded as there would have been NO chance of a second recall being mounted.
He would not have got his tax increase past the Republicans the way Arnold got his borrowing, AND NOW THREATENS THE TAX INCREASES ANYWAY.
LOL - I'm sure MANY scripts for 4 have crossed his desk - but you do know that he has made much more money in business then from his movies, don't you ?
This gives some background - http://immigration.about.com/od/infilmtvandtheater/a/Arnoldschwarz.htm
Heck,
To tell you the truth for 25 mil and a 10 % cut of the box office, Who wouldn't say to his agent..
"Talk to me, Baby!" ;-)
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This could get real interesting real soon if the initiatives go down in flames..
Just 2 months to go.
I like props 74, 75 & 77...still checking out 76.
"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"
Only problem is that this was not the choice the voters had - Did anyone ever really expect the front-runner to drop out of the race to give the third place a chance ?
"...AND NOW THREATENS THE TAX INCREASES ANYWAY."
Of Course ! Do you seriously expect me to believe that you thought the bond issue was the long-term solution to the budget problems ?
Best you ask Duf Sundheim and Gerry Parsky that question as to why they ran Arnold in the first place.
Of Course ! Do you seriously expect me to believe that you thought the bond issue was the long-term solution to the budget problems ?
Of course not, but ARNOLD wanted you to believe it. Once he got them, he raised spending faster than Davis ever did.
Answer truthfully: did you vote for Props 57 & 58?
I voted for Tom...
Tom McClintock if elected governor would restore this state in a single term...but he will never be elected, short of a catostrophic terrorist event in California...
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