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Impeach Bush! (Joseph Farah On Upholding American Sovereignty Alert)
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| 08/31/05
| Joseph Farah
Posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
This has my blood boiling right now. Are Buchanan, Farah, and their supporters aware of what they are saying? Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president. How is that not giving aid and comfort to our enemies? Imagine Al Jazeera talking this up. You mean to tell me that that would not strengthen the Islamofasicists' resolve?
As a vet, I find it indescribably disgusting to suggest anything like this right now. Not one here who calls for this gives a flying flip about this war effort or our troops.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:14:30 PM PDT
by
rdb3
("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
To: MJY1288
You're a tool, my friend.You on the other hand are a fool, and no friend of America. People like you are going to have to decide whether they owe their allegiance to a man and his career, or to a nation and its laws. Looks like you have already made that choice.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:14:44 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: goldstategop
Turn up the heat ... on Congress.
Impeachment of the President, even if it is intended symbolically, is inappropriate in this case (Full disclosure: it so happens I'd spoken during first term of a
symbolic impeachment gesture for President Bush's signing Campaign Finance Reform). Nothing has changed since 2004 when President Bush was reelected with room to spare, and
he did not promise to make this a priority!It is arguable at best that major resources should be suddenly diverted by executive order to the borders. Congress should act with proper deliberation.
To: Map Kernow
No, the Reagan who gave amnesty to illegal immigrants.
Please don't misunderstand me: I'm not a pro-illegal immigrant/open borders person. But there are just some completely stupid ideas floating around among the secure borders people. This column perfectly illustrates that.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:16:55 PM PDT
by
Terpfen
(Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
To: rdb3
Not one here who calls for this gives a flying flip about this war effort or our troops.Do you care about the defense of the homeland? If you do, why would you support the borders and immigration policy of this Administration? What is the remedy for a President who refuses to defend America's borders? Sorry, but the subject has been raised, because it NEEDED to be raised.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:18:16 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: Map Kernow
As I said, go ahead and call for this right now. Mmmm, hmmm... Go right ahead. That proves beyond a doubt what you think about our military and what we are accomplishing, which like illegal immigration, is long overdue.
Go ahead, be the sock puppet of Al Qaeda. Be my guest.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:20:41 PM PDT
by
rdb3
("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
To: Racehorse
"Why wait on George to propose doing the right thing when Congress can do the right thing? "Sorry, can't let this one go by. THIS IS NOT UP TO CONGRESS. This is entirely GWB's responsibility to EXECUTE these laws. That is why they call it the "Executive Office". The Congress is assigned the job of making the laws. They have. They are on the books. The President's SWORN responsibility is to ENFORCE these laws. One other thing: Congress voted to FUND 1000 more BP officers, and GWB hired 200, as I understand. Is any of this hard to understand?
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:22:01 PM PDT
by
de Buillion
(Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
To: Terpfen
No, the Reagan who gave amnesty to illegal immigrants.He did that on his own? Seems like he had some help from Congress. Oh yeah, and there was that thing about it being a one time thing, and the quid pro quo of the employer sanctions and all that. And the fact that the 1986 amnesty didn't even come close to what Bush is proposing. Besides, I remember the INS enforcing the immigration law under Reagan here in Southern California---Reagan didn't simply allow illegals to pour over the border unchallenged as happens now. Sorry, but wrong as the 1986 amnesty was, it was not a dereliction of duty.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:22:14 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: MJY1288
I've been harping on this issue for about fifteen years. I'll bet that I have made just that comment about Clinton.
As for the numbers being greater under Clinton, that's simply untrue.
The numbers pretty well stayed around 1 million during the Clinton years. During that time I tried to get anyone who would listen, to speak out about this issue.
Since Bush's first intimation that a legal guest worker program would be instituted for those already here, the numbers have gone through the roof. It is estimated that around 3 million per year enter our nation illegaly now.
As for expenditures, that's a rather hollow comment. The numbers have tripled, yet you tout an increase in expenditures. What you've signed on to, is the fact that Bush has thrown a bunch of money at this, and has failed miserably to get it under control.
And who said that his actions were poorly designed?
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:22:17 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: Map Kernow
What is it you would have Congress do? Re-affirm existing immigration law? . . .To start with, double the size of the Border Patrol. Provide them with resources to physically secure the borders.
Do you believe the Border Patrol has the manning and resources to do the job now?
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:25:42 PM PDT
by
Racehorse
(Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
To: goldstategop
You have no idea what so ever of the magnitude of effort it woudl take to even have ten percent decline in illegal immigration across the southern border. This is again all the pickle heads finding some way to say I TOLD YOU SO THE PREZ SUCKS. The problem can not be solved for a whole host of reasons of which you again have no idea. If you preach that NAFTA and CAFTA are killing us economically then your going to have to offer a solution to actually secure the border. I promise you as a person who must at times enforce immigration laws it is absolutely with out a doubt completely impossible. Only the states by not providing services to Illegal immigrants can have a significant impact. Governor Richardson declares some sort of emergency over the boarder issue but as of this post has done nothing to stop the state of New Mexico from providing services to Illegals. Why? because he could never get elected if he did something other than pay lip service. And please take none of this as a personal attack. I just have deep frustration that we are allowing the left and the fringe this issue to regain power. The fringe like Farah have power when the left is in session by having a true foil. World Net Daily has little left to offer. People like myself have finally figured out that they have become a tabloid and are moving over to places like free republic to find like minded folks. Again nothing personal. You sound like a very sincere patriotic American.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:25:44 PM PDT
by
mastergibs
(Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
To: rdb3
That proves beyond a doubt what you think about our military and what we are accomplishing, which like illegal immigration, is long overdue. Go ahead, be the sock puppet of Al Qaeda. Be my guest. Who's a sock puppet, Junior? And of whom, Vicente Fox or Osama bin Laden, or both? When al-Qa'eda inserts operatives over our wide open border thanks to a certain someone's dereliction of duty (as it probably already has) and commits another atrocity against the homeland, I want you to take your sock and put it over your head, so you won't have to watch while your guy gets impeached.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:25:46 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: Racehorse
To start with, double the size of the Border Patrol. Provide them with resources to physically secure the borders. Do you believe the Border Patrol has the manning and resources to do the job now?Of course not. But I got news for you: Bush hasn't used the money Congress appropriated for the Border Patrol! Anything else you want them to do?
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:27:08 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: Map Kernow
You are a flagrant Anti War idiot. So respond there with some Junior comment, go ahead you brain dead hippie trying to use the boarder issue as a foil. And please feel offended then go back over to The Democratic Underground. Scum
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:28:43 PM PDT
by
mastergibs
(Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
To: Map Kernow
It doesn't change the fact that he signed the amnesty, period, regardless of where such an idea and document originated. The president has the power of veto: Reagan did not exercise it.
Sorry, but Bush shouldn't be impeached over this. I wonder if Farah's been reading too much DU lately.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:28:55 PM PDT
by
Terpfen
(Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
To: mastergibs
You are a flagrant Anti War idiot. So respond there with some Junior comment, go ahead you brain dead hippie trying to use the boarder issue as a foil. And please feel offended then go back over to The Democratic Underground. ScumYou are a two year old. It's past your bedtime and Mummy wants her computer back.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:30:06 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: goldstategop
We no longer have the will to remain a sovereign country, if we did Afghanistan and Iraq would be "Hot" zones for the next ten thousand years and not one American soldier would have died to make it so.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:33:07 PM PDT
by
kublia khan
(absolute war brings total victory)
To: Map Kernow
Yep you are a democrate. They always find away to elevate themselves above others.
I will pray for your soul
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:33:40 PM PDT
by
mastergibs
(Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
To: Racehorse
"To start with, double the size of the Border Patrol. Provide them with resources to physically secure the borders. "Why should they? They (Congress) FUNDED 1000 more BP, and GWB hired 200. Who is the FAILURE here?
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:33:49 PM PDT
by
de Buillion
(Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
To: Terpfen
It doesn't change the fact that he signed the amnesty, period, regardless of where such an idea and document originated. The president has the power of veto: Reagan did not exercise it.It was wrong, particularly in hindsight. But it was not a dereliction of duty, or impeachable offense.
Sorry, but Bush shouldn't be impeached over this.
If he straightens up and flies right quickly, he won't be. Yesterday in Arizona and here in SoCal he started making noises finally about "defending the borders." Late conversion if true but welcome just the same.
I wonder if Farah's been reading too much DU lately.
Please. DUmmies LIKE illegal immigrants. Know why? They vote Democrat! Patriotic Americans don't need to read DU to see the hell uncontrolled immigration is turning their neighborhoods and country into, or to realize the security threat it poses.
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posted on
08/30/2005 11:35:21 PM PDT
by
Map Kernow
("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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