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Astonishing Exclusive From Mississippi [hundreds if not thousands dead]
Paramedic Rescue Operation | 8-31-05 | My Favorite Headache

Posted on 08/30/2005 10:10:45 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: My Favorite Headache

You sound rational and I have reviewed your posts in the past - they sound rational. My only problem is that part about the government hiding bodies of illegal aliens during Andrew. All we have in this story is your credibility. Can you give us a single plausible scenario where the government would hide (as opposed to temporarily embargo) information about who died in a hurricane?


1,661 posted on 08/31/2005 10:01:36 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: All
New Aerial photos of Biloxi, Gulfport:

Total devestation is the only way to describe. Biloxi.

1,662 posted on 08/31/2005 10:02:40 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: All
"Stranded cat on top of a fence awaits rescue"
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1,663 posted on 08/31/2005 10:02:43 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: George W. Bush
As I said...this individual report from MFH's friend tends to line up with those data points...not confirm, them. They were made by a person on scene who is clearly emotionally and physically fatigued from what they are witnessing and who wanted to share their experience and impression with a close friend...who has not passed it on to us. That is all.

Time will tell as to the specifics.

You yourself estimated 1500 dead. If that is so, then what MFH's friend so could easily line up with that too if they happened to be working in the worst hit area.

I hope you are wrong, that the death toll is lower. I fear your own estimate may be low, so I pray I am wrong too.

These things can be discussed and relted without offense or insult. It's a frustrating and horrific thing that we are all, in some way, witnessing and a part of. The important thing is really not what we think one way or another, or who is right in these grizzly estimates. The important thing is that there are a lot of people suffering right now.

I pray God will rest the souls of the departed and strengthen, buoy up, and comfort those who are mourning or continuing to suffer either physically or emotionally.

...and that each of us, in our own spheres of influence will do all we can to help.

1,664 posted on 08/31/2005 10:02:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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New Aerial photos of Biloxi, Gulfport:

The city is just pretty much gone.

1,665 posted on 08/31/2005 10:03:22 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

I used to live about 1/4 mile from that bridge. I remember during one hurricane a guy went out to the high point of that bridge and tied himself to the railing 'so that he could watch the hurricane'.

They never did find him...


1,666 posted on 08/31/2005 10:03:28 AM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: George W. Bush

Hi, GWB. I'm missed seeing your posts. How've you been?

While I hope and pray your estimates are reality, I fear the loss of life from this flooding looks to be much worse than 1,500 casualties.

The despair in Haley Barbour's voice was haunting.


1,667 posted on 08/31/2005 10:04:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Smogger

Or a 9.0 mixed with 500 F-5s. And we think only ~200 were victims in this?


1,668 posted on 08/31/2005 10:04:10 AM PDT by txhurl (This is worse than I ever imagined. only 25 billion damage?)
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To: CommandoFrank

Which one CommandoFrank? Maybe you can tell us what some of these pictures are of. They didn't have captions.


1,669 posted on 08/31/2005 10:04:33 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Paradox

Of course there are always confusing stories after a disaster. As far as hurricanes go, this 'silent' period is abnormaly long, especially considering current communication abilities.

Assuming this is like the other events simply because they were factored too high might end up leading many into a false sense of security.


1,670 posted on 08/31/2005 10:04:54 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: nascarnation

What I suggest you do is call up a map of Bay Saint Louis and look where I 10 sits. The individual who just got off FOX has first hand information of his family who lived NORTH of I 10 just had their house flooded up to the ceiling. Look at St. Louis Bay which is behind the finger of Bay Saint Louis and Pass Christian. ALL OF THIS WAS UNDERWATER, I know the area very well and used to keep knowledgeable of water levels since I lived on a sailboat for 2 1/2 years there. I went through Hurricane Elaine in 1985 anchored in the Jordon River (water level dropped in that one). I was in a local storm of only 20 to 30 mph where the dock was covered with water in something as minor as that.

I hope you are correct in your assessment of the situation and I am wrong, but I think I have lost a lot of people I knew there.


1,671 posted on 08/31/2005 10:05:17 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: Smogger

It's going to take a lot more than "Casino Magic" to put back together that town.


1,672 posted on 08/31/2005 10:05:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: George W. Bush
I'm not assuming low evac rates at all. I'm assuming 80-90% evac rates, which would be historically high for a hurricane, except for those places where officials are stating otherwise, like Biloxi.

But even if you have 90% evac rates across the entire MS coastline - which we did not - there were a lot more than a couple of hundred people in those areas where we are seeing total devastation.

1,673 posted on 08/31/2005 10:05:46 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Quix; admin
Please save us all from this mad monk!

He has contributed zero that is rational or helpful to this thread.

1,674 posted on 08/31/2005 10:06:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: nevercalm

Gracias, Veneuela


1,675 posted on 08/31/2005 10:06:41 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: Smogger

Great pictures. I always find it amazing to see what survives and what doesn't. Take the photo in 1655 for instance. The "Casino Magic" (i think that's what it says) held, but the giant building across the street didn't do so well (the one that shifted off it's foundation).

I'm sure I'll get a bunch of posts about engineering principles etc, but it's still an interesting thing to see.


1,676 posted on 08/31/2005 10:06:57 AM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: U S Army EOD

I ran across a really interesting book that speaks very well to this disaster: The North Face of God by Ken Gire. He addresses those times when God seems to have abandoned us. He writes about holding onto hope, despite current difficult circumstances.


1,677 posted on 08/31/2005 10:07:40 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: lugsoul
But even if you have 90% evac rates across the entire MS coastline - which we did not - there were a lot more than a couple of hundred people in those areas where we are seeing total devastation.

Exactly. We have reports that many did not listen to orders as well. Those claiming everyone evacuated are either not listening to the facts coming forth from local officials, or they are ignoring them. Anyone that came in contact with the main body of surge had a very low chance of surviving.

1,678 posted on 08/31/2005 10:08:18 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: ArmyTeach

Es decir, Gracias, Venezuela. typos- grrr


1,679 posted on 08/31/2005 10:08:29 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: dfwgator
All the technology and accurate predictions in the world are still not enough to convince some folks to head for the hills.

I saw a Bay St. Louis survivor's story last night and she stayed because her historic home had made it through Camille. She spent the three hours clinging to a tree with four others and miraculously, they all survived. Her house is gone, though.

1,680 posted on 08/31/2005 10:08:54 AM PDT by Lib Buster (It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.)
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