Many wrestlers did not know submission moves until they learned juijitsu. Then they became really dangerous!
My opinion is that it is good to know ground fighting, but fights, but almost all fights start standing up and not all should go to the ground if there are other people around.
Good point. If other people are around getting the takedown may get you kicked in the head by the opponent's buddies. Been there.
YOu should attend the NCAA wrestling championships--in Oklahoma City in 2006: they were held in St Louis the last two years where I attended. The heavyweight champion, Steve Mocco, is also a national judo champion. Go figure. I am too old for this stuff now and have had to graduate to carrying my old .45; as they say, whatever it takes to win.