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NEW ORLEANS. IT'S WORSE THAN YOU ARE HEARING!
WWL Television in New Orleans, LA ^ | Aug 29, 2005 | none

Posted on 08/30/2005 8:03:13 AM PDT by alligator

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To: alligator
Just under 1/2 the gasoline in the US is refined in the Gulf Coast.

Glad you are correcting the record. Depending on how you define 'Gulf Coast', that may be correct. But what you initially posted was a gross overstatement of the impact.

If BP will avoid blowing up a refinery for a few days, everything should work out.

That's good news about the LOOP. It confirms what I've been thinking. Most of the offshore platforms should be back in production in a couple of days as well. As production outstrips refining capacity, crude prices may continue to drop.

261 posted on 08/31/2005 6:27:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: CSM

Greenspan is like Pavlog's dog. Ring a bell and he salivates. Pop a commodity and he raises interest rates, then talks down whatever industry he wants to depress at that moment.
He is the most dangerous man in the world.


262 posted on 09/01/2005 8:06:41 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: steve8714

Has anyone heard about the rescue boats being shot at? I just heard it on Foxnews!!!


263 posted on 09/01/2005 8:08:23 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (Close the borders.....)
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To: ariamne

Didn't "Streets of Fire" predate "Terminator"?


264 posted on 09/01/2005 8:08:51 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: CSM

Thread confusion update...


265 posted on 09/01/2005 8:09:57 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: alligator

Sitting here in the comfort of my kitchen, it is easy to second guess the situ...but, why would an engineer recommend the construction of an oil refinery on a flood prone river plain....?


266 posted on 09/01/2005 8:12:58 AM PDT by thinking
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To: steve8714

OK, you have me stumped.......

Did you come up with a car pooling plan yet? ;-)


267 posted on 09/01/2005 8:13:42 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: alligator
Major lumber mills have been destroyed, which is going to have a dramatic effect on new construction and the housing bubble.

We are doing an old-house rehab and the contractor told us he is buying all the lumber this weekend so that he can honor his original bid estimates. Yes, that means that we are having to pay the entirety of this now--but who knows where the cost will be within the next few weeks and months.

268 posted on 09/01/2005 8:17:22 AM PDT by MHT
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To: alligator

All these stories do is cause panic mode for the uninformed. I refuse to indulge in it.


269 posted on 09/01/2005 8:36:55 AM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-PrayerWarrior - Just a ping away)
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To: CSM

I sell for a living, so unless I want to ride with competitors,...


270 posted on 09/01/2005 8:48:32 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: steve8714

In that case, I'll be expecting your SG&A costs to increase in your RFQ's.


271 posted on 09/01/2005 8:59:02 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: thinking
"Sitting here in the comfort of my kitchen, it is easy to second guess the situ...but, why would an engineer recommend the construction of an oil refinery on a flood prone river plain....?"

Several reasons. First, a large part of the oil comes from offshore locations (Gulf of Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia). So the refineries are located close to where the oil can be offloaded and piped for refining. These refineries aren't knew. Most are well over 60 yrs old and were built to pre WWII.

Second. The refinery process, like most large chemical processing plants, paper mills, steel mills, etc. require large amounts of clean water for use in their boilers and cooling towers. So they have to be located near a large supply of fresh water, a river or a very large lake. The Mississippi River is the largest river in the US. So would expect that it would have a large amount of industry located next to it.

272 posted on 09/01/2005 9:45:51 AM PDT by alligator (To be ignorant of one's ingorance is the malady of the ignorant.)
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To: CSM

good luck.


273 posted on 09/01/2005 9:51:57 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: steve8714

I must be your buyer.....


274 posted on 09/01/2005 9:59:13 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: steve8714

Hard to tell--they were both released in 1984.


275 posted on 09/01/2005 10:51:41 AM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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