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To: Jeff Gordon

"As I have already stated, anti-evolution experiments are not pro-ID experiments."

Look, genius, if it couldn't have happened *without* ID, then it must have happened *with* ID.

Take a look at the Linux kernel. Could it have possibly have come together without ID? Even if I know absolutely nothing about its actual origin and authors, I'd say no. And that's equivalent to saying that it must have required at least some ID.

This is not rocket science.


295 posted on 08/28/2005 11:00:00 PM PDT by RussP
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To: RussP
Look, genius, if it couldn't have happened *without* ID, then it must have happened *with* ID.

While by Contradiction and Reductio ad Absurdum are valid logical machinations, your attempt at it is absurd. To use this method you would have to prove that evolution could not occur without ID. To do that you would have to prove ID.

Provide the details of ONE experiment that can be used to verify the ID hypothesis.

296 posted on 08/28/2005 11:10:47 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: RussP
"Take a look at the Linux kernel. Could it have possibly have come together without ID? Even if I know absolutely nothing about its actual origin and authors, I'd say no. And that's equivalent to saying that it must have required at least some ID.

This is simply an argument from personal incredulity. However your point is taken. Your test says nothing about showing that it could only come from ID but that it could not have been random chance. Abiogenesis does not come from random chance but from the laws that determine how atoms become molecules. Atoms will only combine with other atoms in specific ways, removing their interaction from the large probability space IDists want to place them in and placing them in a much smaller space.

It would be virtually impossible to falsify every non-ID possibility.

373 posted on 08/29/2005 12:33:23 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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