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Experts Warn Debt May Threaten Economy
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | Aug 27, 2005 | Robert Tanner (A.P.)

Posted on 08/27/2005 3:14:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58

You owe $145,000. And the bill is rising every day. That's how much it would cost every American man, woman and child to pay the tab for the long-term promises the U.S. government has made to creditors, retirees, veterans and the poor.

And it's not even taking into account credit card bills, mortgages - all the debt we've racked up personally. Savings? The average American puts away barely $1 of every $100 earned.

Our profligate ways at home are mirrored in Washington and in the global marketplace, where as a society America spends $1.9 billion more a day on imported clothes and cars and gadgets than the entire rest of the world spends on its goods and services.

A new Associated Press/Ipsos poll finds that barely a third of Americans would cut spending to reduce the federal deficit and even fewer would raise taxes.

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If those figures seem out of whack to you, if they seem to cut against the way you learned to handle money, if they seem like a recipe for a national economic nightmare - well, then, at least you're not alone.

A chorus of economists, government officials and elected leaders both conservative and liberal is warning that America's nonstop borrowing has put the nation on the road to a major fiscal disaster - one that could unleash plummeting home values, rocketing interest rates, lost jobs, stagnating wages and threats to government services ranging from health care to law enforcement.

David Walker, who audits the federal government's books as the U.S. comptroller general, put it starkly in an interview with the AP:

"I believe the country faces a critical crossroad and that the decisions that are made - or not made - within the next 10 years or so will have a profound effect on the future of our country, our children and our grandchildren. The problem gets bigger every day, and the tidal wave gets closer every day."

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Poll Tracks Americans' Debt Worries

Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan echoed those worries just last week, warning that the federal budget deficit hampered the nation's ability to absorb possible shocks from the soaring trade deficit and the housing boom. He criticized the nation's "hesitancy to face up to the difficult choices that will be required to resolve our looming fiscal problems."

Certainly, there are those who feel such comments bring to mind the preachers who predict the end of the world at a specific time and place, and have always been wrong. And undeniably, borrowing isn't all bad - easy access to money has been a critical tool in building America's businesses, from mom-and-pops to multinationals.

But something has changed. More than two centuries ago, Benjamin Franklin warned: "He that goes aborrowing, goes asorrowing." Now, a laugh-til-you-cry commercial portrays a man with a beautiful home and car declaring: "I'm in debt up to my eyeballs. I can barely pay my finance charges. Somebody help me."

The epidemic of American indebtedness runs from home to government to global marketplace. To examine it, let's start at home.

Americans used to save, but no longer. Back in the 1950s, a generation of Americans who had survived the Depression and Second World War saved roughly 8 percent of their income. The savings rate rose and fell slightly over the decades - it went as high as 11 percent and as low as 7 percent during the "greed is good" 1980s - but now those days are only a memory.

In the charge-everything start of the new millennium, savings have plummeted: to just 1.8 percent last year, below 1 percent since January and at zero in the latest estimate from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The lack of savings is mirrored by a rise in debt. In 2000, household debt broke 18 percent of disposable income for the first time in 20 years, meaning debt eats almost $1 in every $5 American families have to spend after they get past the bills that keep them fed and housed. (That figure hasn't dropped. Credit card debt alone averages $7,200 per household.)

Many people take comfort in the rising value of their homes, and its spurred record home-building and buying, with new construction making places like Las Vegas the fastest-growing in the nation. But a home translates into wealth only when you sell it - and there's a vigorous debate over whether the housing boom is becoming a bubble that will burst.

"It seems like, with the younger generation, that they want to have now what it took us years to get," says Jo Canelon, a 46-year-old social worker in Statenville, Ga.

"I see people younger than me with comparable jobs that drive new vehicles and have a boat and mortgage and things," says Canelon, who responded to the AP/Ipsos poll. "And I just wonder about their debt."

Canelon sees echoes in the rise of obesity: a pervasive I-want-it-now attitude no matter what the consequences. To her, debt's a symptom of disease, and one that's spreading.

If she's right, the government is sick, too.

Leaders are elected by the people they serve, of course, and the American people seem to want the best of both worlds - tax cuts and government services - while they hope the dollars sort themselves out. They worry about the nation's problems, but not enough to agree on a course of action to fix them.

The AP/Ipsos poll of 1,000 adults taken July 5-7 found that a sweeping majority - 70 percent - worried about the size of the federal deficit either "some" or "a lot."

But only 35 percent were willing to cut government spending and experience a drop in services to balance the budget. Even fewer - 18 percent - were willing to raise taxes to keep current services. Just 1 percent wanted to both raise taxes and cut spending. The poll has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The nation's political leaders could hardly be said to have a mandate calling for fiscal responsibility.

A few years ago, government finances were the strongest they've been in a generation. Then came a turnaround - and a stunningly quick one. The budget surplus of $236 billion in 2000 turned into a deficit of $412 billion last year. The government had to borrow that much to cover the hole between what it took in and what it had to spend; a difference that's called the federal deficit.

Blame the bust of the dot-com boom, the ensuing recession, President Bush's federal tax cuts, the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the subsequent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Bush has gotten his share of brickbats, from both the right and the left, for the spending while he's in office. Still, the federal deficit isn't as big as it was in the worst of the years under President Reagan as a percentage of the overall economy.

Some note things are getting better: The latest reports project a deficit of $331 billion for 2005, nearly $100 billion less than expected. Outstanding debt - the amount of securities and bonds that must be repaid - is far below what it was in the early 1990s.

But bigger worries lie ahead.

The nation's three biggest entitlement programs - Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - make promises for retirement and health care (for the elderly and the poor) which carry a huge price tag that balloons as the population grows and ages.

Add it up: current debt and deficit, promises for those big programs, pensions, veterans health care. The total comes to $43 trillion, says Walker, the nation's comptroller general, who runs the Government Accountability Office. That's where the $145,000 bill for every American, or $350,000 for every full-time worker, comes from.

Simply hoping for good times to return won't erase numbers like that, Walker says.

"There's no way we're going to grow our way out of our long-range fiscal imbalance," he says, adding that the country must re-examine tax policy, entitlement programs and the entire federal budget.

"I really do not believe the American people have a real idea as to where we are and where we're headed, and what the potential implications are for the country if we don't start making some tough decisions soon," he says.

The dangers are clear as day to Felicia Brown in Saginaw, Mich. To her, it's the leaders who ignore them, she says.

"We're stealing from our children's future and our grandchildren's future," says the cashier and mother of three, who also responded to the AP/Ipsos poll. "We're led off on this belief that we should buy, buy, buy. Everyone needs a big house, everyone needs a new car every two years. We're spending all this money on that, and we're not saving anything."

Some people, however - including economists - think the picture isn't so gloomy.

Ben Bernanke, who recently left the Federal Reserve Board to serve as President Bush's top economic adviser, has argued that the problem is not with the United States. The trouble lies overseas, where people want to save rather than spend their money. The key is to encourage other countries to spend and invest more, he says, though he also believes that the federal budget needs to be balanced.

By raising the issue of foreign investment, Bernanke touches on another area that scares economists - America's inexhaustible desire for foreign goods.

The trade deficit - the difference between what America imports and what it exports - is the highest it's ever been, both in absolute numbers and in comparison to the size of the economy.

As a society, Americans are on track this year to spend $680 billion more on foreign goods such as Chinese-made clothes, Japanese-made cars and Scandinavian cell phones than overseas buyers do on American goods. The crush of arriving, Asian-made products recently spurred the Port of Los Angeles to switch to 24-hour operations.

Nearly two decades ago, the country fretted over a trade imbalance equal to 3.1 percent of the overall economy, or the gross domestic product. It's more than twice as big now, roughly 6.5 percent.

Here's how economists, from former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker to former Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin to analysts at the International Monetary Fund, explain the danger: Americans, who go into debt to keep living a life beyond their means, are spending more and more of that borrowed money to buy goods from overseas.

At the same time, the government provides more services to the public than it can afford to - and goes into debt to cover the cost.

Other nations actually purchase that debt, in the form of U.S. Treasury bonds and notes. Those bonds have increasingly been snapped up not just by private investors but by foreign banks. Japanese investors hold the most U.S. debt, but China has been buying more than any other country in recent months.

The biggest trade deficit is with China, too, at $162 billion. Japan is next, at $75 billion.

In a very real sense, the U.S. economy is dependent on the central banks of Japan, China and other nations to invest in U.S. Treasuries and keep American interest rates down. The low rates here keep American consumers buying imported goods.

But the lack of fiscal discipline in the United States is undermining the value of the American dollar, thereby lowering the value of the U.S. Treasuries in foreign banks. As the dollar's value drops, other nations' willingness to keep investing cannot last, says Nouriel Roubini, an economics professor at New York University.

If those banks reduced their dollar holdings or were simply less willing to invest so much, it could spark a sharp fall in the value of the dollar. And that could create a host of economic problems.

Economists and business leaders are closely watching China's decision last month to uncouple the value of its currency, the yuan, from the dollar and tie it instead to a basket of different currencies. The move could make the dollar's position less exposed to a quick shift by international investors - or it could spur those investors to look elsewhere and leave the United States' position more precarious.

In the end, Roubini, Walker and others say, disaster is still avoidable, but it's going to require the American people and the country's leaders to clean financial house - to reduce the federal deficit and the trade deficit. Global economics may drive some changes: if Japanese cars cost more, for example, Americans may buy less-expensive GMs.

If not, the future poses some frightening what-ifs:

- What if the dollar plummets? Do stocks follow? How about pensions?

- What if interest rates soar? How would all the new homeowners, who stretched to buy with adjustable and interest-only loans, cover their mortgages?

- How would consumers with record credit-card debt make their payments? Would they stop buying? Stop taking vacations? What will happen if they go bankrupt? New rules going into effect later this year make it harder on such debtors.

- How would government, which depends on the taxes of a strong economy to operate, keep all its promises?

Roubini says time is critical because the worse debt becomes, the more vulnerable America is to shocks in the global economic systems - another spike in oil prices, another major terrorist attack, another major military conflict.

OK, now back to you. No one's asking you to write a check to cover that $145,000, not yet. But the pressures are building around the world, in Washington, and in America's homes to straighten out our finances or get ready for a real mess.

"We're living beyond our means," Roubini says, "and we have to get our act together."


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To: spinestein

I kind of get tired of the elderly and the puur,they are kind of like the french, they run their mouths, get themselves into a heap of trouble then bitch that everybody else has to bail them out. Screw"em, if they can't support themselves maybe it is time to give natural selection a chance.


41 posted on 08/27/2005 7:51:19 PM PDT by antti tuuri
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To: thoughtomator
Very little incentive to save when Money Market accounts yield half a percent interest.

I have some of my savings at ING direct, and am happy with the 3.3%.

42 posted on 08/27/2005 7:52:33 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Moonman62
We can stop right there.

I agree: you need to get some basic book on economics.

43 posted on 08/27/2005 8:01:55 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: FairOpinion
Direct quote from DUmmyland:

I am opposed to 'affordable health care' because in the United States, the richest and most advanced nation on earth, every one of our citizens ahs the absolute right to health care. It should not be 'affordable'.

It should be FREE.

44 posted on 08/27/2005 8:04:04 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Every day I tell my kids that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Then the other day my six year old starts first grade and the first thing they do is try to sign all the kids up for free lunches.


45 posted on 08/27/2005 8:13:30 PM PDT by antti tuuri
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To: Moonman62; ExitPurgamentum

[We've have an unprecedented boom for 25 years, thanks largely to...]



...the steadily increasing productivity of working Americans who are still free to exchange goods and services in an expanding market.




46 posted on 08/27/2005 8:45:09 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: antti tuuri
I don't know the words I'd use with a 6 year old but I would try to explain that they are not really "free" that somebody pays for them.
47 posted on 08/27/2005 8:46:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: pfony1
*DING*

You're right! The correct answer is "increase".

pfony1 wins 10 FReep-points.

</:^)%
48 posted on 08/27/2005 8:54:40 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: ancient_geezer; pigdog

"In the end, Roubini, Walker and others say, disaster is still avoidable, but it's going to require the American people and the country's leaders to clean financial house - to reduce the federal deficit and the trade deficit. Global economics may drive some changes: if Japanese cars cost more, for example, Americans may buy less-expensive GMs."


Good article. There is a rather new book out called Three Billion New Capitalists by Clyde Prestowitz which says a lot of the same things.

Part of the answer is clearly tax reform. We can't afford the luxury of a tax system which puts US producers at a disadvantage in the increasingly global economy any more. The FairTax would help greatly in both the federal budget and the trade deficit areas.


49 posted on 08/27/2005 9:19:35 PM PDT by phil_will1 (My posts are in no way limited or restricted by previously expressed SQL opinions)
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah, whatever. Since it's Republicans engaged in profligate spending it doesn't count! Just like when you eat cake at someone else's house the calories dont' count!


50 posted on 08/27/2005 9:50:52 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: spinestein
...the steadily increasing productivity of working Americans who are still free to exchange goods and services in an expanding market.

Correct, but that was not the point: the business cycles have been smoothed out to an unprecedented degree, and this was achieved by returning to the historically typical, low levels of inflation not seen in one half of a century.

51 posted on 08/27/2005 11:19:26 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: pfony1
For example, I think that capping tax-free income from "tax-exempt" bonds at, say, $1,000,000 would erase some of the unfair advantage that inherited "old money" seems to have over hard-working (taxable) "new money".

This would only precipitate a move away from the tax-free to taxable instruments. The only looser would be municipalities and states.

Moreover, the very idea is a socialist misconception. What is equal across investment instruments is a risk-adjusted return on capital. In other words, tax-free and taxable instruments earn the same return. There is no advantage in tax-free instruments for investors: the only beneficiaries are issuers of those bonds.

This talk about "old money"; and "hard-working money" is pure Marxist class envy. And it is also a technical error: once the money is put to use (invested in bonds), it pays the salaries of great many employees --- regardless of whether it was inherited or earned.

52 posted on 08/27/2005 11:28:50 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: pfony1
For example, I think that capping tax-free income from "tax-exempt" bonds at, say, $1,000,000 would erase some of the unfair advantage that inherited "old money" seems to have over hard-working (taxable) "new money".

This would only precipitate a move away from the tax-free to taxable instruments. The only looser would be municipalities and states.

Moreover, the very idea is a socialist misconception. What is equal across investment instruments is a risk-adjusted return on capital. In other words, tax-free and taxable instruments earn the same return. There is no advantage in tax-free instruments for investors: the only beneficiaries are issuers of those bonds.

This talk about "old money"; and "hard-working money" is pure Marxist class envy. And it is also a technical error: once the money is put to use (invested in bonds), it pays the salaries of great many employees --- regardless of whether it was inherited or earned.

53 posted on 08/27/2005 11:28:51 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: ExitPurgamentum

[the business cycles have been smoothed out to an unprecedented degree, and this was achieved by returning to the historically typical, low levels of inflation not seen in one half of a century.]


You are very correct on this.

And the cause of inflation is always allowing the money supply to grow faster than the value of the goods and services it represents.

Unwise government meddling such as printing too much money, imposing price controls, raising the minimum wage, raising marginal tax rates, or increasing the cost of doing business through regulation is nearly always the reason.

There are many tweaks the government can and should do to smooth out the short term bumps in the economy that occur naturally in a free market, but the government always has a hard time resisting the temptation to control all aspects of it by thinking it can legislatively repeal the law of supply and demand. </:^)%


54 posted on 08/27/2005 11:44:11 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: balrog666
Real Estate asset "wealth" is the tricky thing. I know what "experts" say my house is worth but I'M NOT SELLING IT so it doesn't matter. My house has no mortgage.

The underlying threat in real estate is all the debt leveraged against its "blue sky" value.

We live in a real estate market of the "greater fool" theory. We believe there will always be a greater fool to pay a lot more for our houses. This allows us to rest our financial anxieties upon a comfortable myth of our personal wealth.

I believe real estate has become a dangerous crutch to justify massive personal debt.

55 posted on 08/28/2005 2:02:50 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: spinestein
There are many tweaks the government can and should do to smooth out the short term bumps in the economy that occur naturally in a free market, but the government always has a hard time resisting the temptation to control all aspects of it by thinking it can legislatively repeal the law of supply and demand.

Very true, but isn't this the reason why Fed that deals with the "bumps" is completely independent of those that try to repeal the law of supply and demand?

That independence is symbolized by a true story, which was conveyed to me a few years ago by a colleague, who is an old friend of Greenspan.

While running from one confrence presentation to another and trying to catch an elevator in the conference hotel, he sees Greenspan coming out of that same elevator and says, "Hi Alan, how are you?"

Greenspan's reply: "I am not allowed to say." He was smiling but clearly not joking.

56 posted on 08/28/2005 7:35:23 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Yes, I understand your point. I wouldn't count a residence as a savings asset.

But if I owned 10 rental houses free and clear and owned $1,000,000 in stocks but had no savings account, this study would conclude that I had no savings.

57 posted on 08/28/2005 9:33:15 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: spinestein
And the cause of inflation is always allowing the money supply to grow faster than the value of the goods and services it represents.

By definition, that's true, but get a historical chart of the CPI and tie it to world events of the time. Such a comparison yields the causes of inflation as war, price controls, government currency manipulation, and government overspending.

As far as business cycles go, business has had very little to do with it for decades. It should be called the government meddling cycle, through either currency policy by the White House, or monetary policy by the Federal Reserve which is usually coordinated with currency policy anyway. If we really wanted to smooth out the bumps in the economy, it could be done by targeting a stable currency value, which is what the Federal Reserve is supposed to do, not micromanage the economy.

58 posted on 08/28/2005 10:35:26 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: ExitPurgamentum

You said,

"What is equal across investment instruments is a risk-adjusted return on capital. In other words, tax-free and taxable instruments earn the same return. There is no advantage in tax-free instruments for investors: the only beneficiaries are issuers of those bonds."

That may be "true" for any instant in time. HOWEVER, a tax-rate increase creates an un-taxed capital gain for owners of tax-exempt bonds.

When John Kerry proposed an increase in tax rates for those of us who don't get our income from tax-exempt bonds -- i.e. NOT JfK, I figured that he was pushing for an un-taxed gain (for himself) of more than $500K.

I think it would be useful if ALL Americans (not just working Americans) understood that increasing tax rates is NOT a "good thing".


59 posted on 08/28/2005 3:38:18 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1
I agree with you that tax increases are not a good thing, but you did not speak about that: you talked about differential increases among Americans.

a tax-rate increase creates an un-taxed capital gain for owners of tax-exempt bonds.

How? If I paid $700 for a bond and get $1000 at maturity, I pay tax on the taxable portion of the difference, and my liability goes up, not down, if taxes increased in the interim. I may have gotten $100 in interest, but that is tax free and I get the same amount even if tax increases.

Moreover, when I tried to reinvest $100 into tax-free bonds I got hurt because their prices increased and I must pay more.

Where are the capital, or any other, gains?

60 posted on 08/28/2005 8:09:15 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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