Amid GOP divide on immigration, White House moves toward new plan

AP ^ | 8/27/05 | RON FOURNIER

[MrNatural]

..how many Republican Congressmen are willing to go down with Bush's collapsing poll numbers(?)..

This has to be our point of attack. Bush himself seems completely impervious to preventing the literal destruction of the US in it's current form, and seems completely unaware of the potential magnitude of the political fallout.

The House of Representatives is a different story. If they think this is an issue that can defeat or elect a Congressman/woman, they will break from Bush in a heartbeat.

[planekT]

Has he read his own bill? It's every bit the knee-slapper.

You bet it is. He doesn't think they will turn themselves in to be deported, but some how he thinks they will step forward and pay a 2K fine and back taxes??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Silly man. He's gotta go.

[Reagan Man]

Right here. See RE:#27.

[janetgreen]

The White House may take the unusual step of writing the legislation or submitting specific language to Congress.

The failed President of Mexico, Vicente Fox, will dictate the legislation, of course.

GWBush and those who came before him, with the help of traitors in Congress, have sold America out.

[Roccus]

The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment!

[cripplecreek]

"I'm afraid he was right."


No need to be afraid, I'm proud to see that so many people are willing to toss partisanship aside in favor of doing the right thing.

[ImphClinton]

"From construction companies in Arizona to farmers in the Midwest and California, many industries need those cheap and available workers."

Problem is they are Illegal immigrants because they can be fired on the spot with no recourses. Americans need not apply.

My brother is a crew chief and will not hire Americans. Plenty apply but all for naught. If he hires them they want raises for good work, they want extra pay for jobs far away, but worse of all if he fires them they oft times sue.

With the Mexicans he just fires them when they stop working hard or injury themselves. Where as an American gets workers comp.

These are Jobs Americans would love to have but have no chance at. They paid over $20 / hour until they were all replaced with Illegals. Now they par $10 / hour.

Make these illegals legal and they will also demand more money, sue when fired and demand workers comp. At least Americans will then have a chance of getting a job and the wages will go up.

By the way even though wages are way down home cost way more. Only the big companies make more money off these illegals. The taxpayers and everyone else gets soaked.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The media attaches all things to the war in Iraq but personally I think the plummeting approval ratings are a combination of things.

It is more than just Iraq. In January 2004 when Bush first proposed this lunacy his poll ratings sunk 10 points overnight. People are aware of this issue more than he and Congress think and will not forget so easily by 2006.

[snowsislander]

Bush and his advisers are caught between their supporters in the business sector, who believe the economy needs those workers, ...

These are not ordinary, legal 'workers', these are illegal aliens.

Make that sentence "Bush and his advisers are caught between their supporters in the business sector, who believe the economy needs these illegal workers, ..." to see how absurd this sounds. American businesses do not need to be breaking the law to hire these illegals, and the president should not be proposing ways for businesses to profit from their illegal activities.

The president, as the head of the executive, should be enforcing our immigration laws against those who are blatantly flouting them by sneaking across our borders and those who are encouraging them by hiring them (and those who are now trying to encourage them to buy homes with mortgage money that largely comes from the GSEs.)

[wardaddy]

i used to think Bush was laying a nice path for conservatives to the future. it's been looking a bit more rocky lately

he has a profound disconnect on immigration...really incredible....one day, if the existing American culture is not completely subjugated, academics will talk about this:

"he was great on foreign policy and strong when American needed it, he tried to institute some tax reforms and a wee bit of cultural conservatism and had some successes but he ignored illegal immigration back when there was still a chance to do something about it."

[wardaddy]

i used to think Bush was laying a nice path for conservatives to the future. it's been looking a bit more rocky lately

he has a profound disconnect on immigration...really incredible....one day, if the existing American culture is not completely subjugated, academics will talk about this:

"he was great on foreign policy and strong when American needed it, he tried to institute some tax reforms and a wee bit of cultural conservatism and had some successes but he ignored illegal immigration back when there was still a chance to do something about it."

[FreePaul]

...White House moves toward new plan

Does this mean they are admitting that whats been going on for the last five years was part of a plan?

[superiorslots]

My question is how do we determine if an ilegal was here before or after 2-04?? What a joke.

"Si Senior I was hereo beforo 2owo 4 owo""

[Reaganwuzthebest]

What wing of the Republican Party is pro illegal immigration?!

I'd consider Jim Kolbe, Jeff Flake and Chris Cannon to be part of the cheap labor wing of the GOP.

[Prime Choice]

Struggling to pacify his party's warring wings, President Bush is moving toward allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before February 2004 to qualify for guest-worker visas.

Funny, I don't feel pacified. I feel p!ssed-off.

We're being sold out and the only ones who are even bothering to attempt to address the issue are the frickin' Democrats for pity's sake!

If this crap keeps up, we may as well kiss the White House and the Congress goodbye in 2008.

[superiorslots]

Quote: If the economy needs immigrant workers, then they can come here legally.

But then big business will have to pay workers comp, SS, etc

[Reagan Man]

>>>>What wing of the Republican Party is pro illegal immigration?!

The GOP-people oppose illegal immigration and amnesty.

It's the majority of GOP politicos who are pro-illegal immigration.

[roses of sharon]

The US Senate and the NYT run this country, not the President.

And both of these orgs are elitists snobs who are drunk with power, and for 40 years have been firmly entrenched.

Since the Pres seems to sign every bill that comes out of the legislators, ie the peoples body, then it is up to us to pressure the Senate, and demand they ignore their puppet-masters in the press.

[inquest]

Wouldn't they have to do that anyway once the illegals are "legalized"?