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Amid GOP divide on immigration, White House moves toward new plan
AP ^ | 8/27/05 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 08/27/2005 10:23:56 AM PDT by GOPGuide

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1 posted on 08/27/2005 10:23:59 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Happy2BMe

"I Hillary Rodham Clinton do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President..."


2 posted on 08/27/2005 10:24:47 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide
moving toward allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before February 2004 to qualify for guest-worker visas.

Kiss my Buttock

3 posted on 08/27/2005 10:27:07 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: GOPGuide
..President Bush is moving toward allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before February 2004 to qualify for guest-worker visas..

They're not getting it. They are just not getting it.

4 posted on 08/27/2005 10:28:02 AM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: GOPGuide
What part of illegal don't they get?
5 posted on 08/27/2005 10:28:20 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: GOPGuide
dubya needs to get with the program; he has done little or nothing to ameliorate this problem. anger and resentment is palpable in many western states and more.

i have supported him faithfully, as i believe he has been unflinching in the war on terror, but, for some reason, he has a weak spot where illegals are concerned.

it is possible republicans can lose an election in many states over this single issue. it is THE issue next election.

6 posted on 08/27/2005 10:28:37 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: GOPGuide
"I Hillary Rodham Clinton do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President..."

That will never happen.


7 posted on 08/27/2005 10:30:07 AM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: GOPGuide
Struggling to pacify his party's warring wings, President Bush is moving toward allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before February 2004 to qualify for guest-worker visas. People smuggled in after then would be deported.

This insanity must be defeated at all costs. If conservatives, who elect these people into office cannot keep them from imposing unwanted policies on us and the country then there's no use in staying in the party is there?

8 posted on 08/27/2005 10:31:02 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: MrNatural

no, they are not

and blaming Bush's failed so far attitude towards illegal immigration on business interests alone is folly

it's a philosophical issue for him and some other notables (wink)


9 posted on 08/27/2005 10:31:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (thinking.....)
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To: GOPGuide
"Turn yourself in so we can send you back to Mexico," said McCain, throwing his head back in laughter............."

Has he read his own bill? It's every bit the knee-slapper.
10 posted on 08/27/2005 10:31:35 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: GOPGuide

I will support this "new" amnesty program if 100% of all Bush family asettes are included in the bill to pay the costs of these lawbreakers..... And the assettes of any other politico who chooses to support such a plan.

But that will never happen - it's not in their personal best interest.

We gripe all the time here about the DemocRATs often blatant conflict of interest/being bought and paid for by special interests, etc. Well, someone please convince me that GW and family are not in the same type of conflict here. They may not personally rely on illegals for their family fortune, but they obviously have friends and supporters (read that financial) that DO use illegals extensively. Otherwise, why would these people be so eager to throw away our nation's laws and sovereignty?

I place the lack of enforcement of our borders very close to the same level of treason as Clintoon's giveaway (sale) of our missile technology.

Right now, I am in favor of a new Joseph McCarthy - but this time, instead of a campaign to expose communists (although that would likely come out too!), this effort would be to expose treason by our nation's "leaders". The Clintons, the Bush family (don't anyone say they are totally innocent), and all other politicians and public figures who support the giveaway of our national sovereignty - regardless of their supposed political party or association.

But - we will continue on the road of "Status Quo" and one day in the not-so-distant future, we will wake up an say "what happened to our country".


11 posted on 08/27/2005 10:33:30 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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Ron Fournier had an orgasm writing this article. He and his DNC bosses know that the illegal alien issue is ripping the GOP to shreds.

I, for one, cannot comprehend how a President who has sworn to upon the Constitution to protect this nation from foreign and domestic enemies can sit back and shrug his shoulders at the dangerous illegal problem.

We don't owe illegals anything. There shouldn't even be discussion of a "guest-worker" program.

12 posted on 08/27/2005 10:34:12 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: GOPGuide

Depends on the nominee.

I'd like to see Kyl run for President!!


13 posted on 08/27/2005 10:34:20 AM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: GOPGuide; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; EagleUSA; devolve; Stellar Dendrite
#2 - I'm not laughing - NOT ONE BIT.

George W. Bush's abandonment of the United States border with Mexico has handed the Democrates full reigns in 2008.

2006 will be a bloodlust.

14 posted on 08/27/2005 10:34:55 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: GOPGuide
The only divide I see is between "we the people" and the congresscritters who infest DC. I got news for them, thinly disguised amnesty programs ain't gonna fly this time.
16 posted on 08/27/2005 10:35:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: moehoward

The silver lining here though is that with this attitude, it's less and less likely that McCain will get the GOP nomination in 2008...


17 posted on 08/27/2005 10:36:29 AM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: TheBattman; GOPGuide; moehoward
AMNESTY for VOTES.

Bush admits: "I was wrong about amnesty." (humor)

Bush’s Proposal Amounts To Amnesty For Millions of Illegal Immigrants

Bush: Let Illegals Work in U.S. (But that is not enough say illegals.)

Mark Steyn: llIegals the political 'untouchables'

Congresss ALREADY APPROVED AMNESTY – it didn’t work then, why will it now?

Stop Amnesty For Illegals

Real Message of The Bush Amnesty

Congresss ALREADY APPROVED AMNESTY – it didn’t work then, why will it now?

Tancredo Blasts Immigration Plan

The Republicans Proposing Immigration Reform (Amnesty)

Amnesty By Another Name is Still Amnesty: Bush Compounds an Immigration Disaster

Amnesty and Culture

THE BIGGEST VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AMNESTY: THE BUSINESS LEADERS WHO SUPPORT IT

Statement from the American Federation of Government Employees on the Bush Immigration Amnesty

Rep. Kolbe (RINO-AZ) Sierra Vista Town Hall Met With Protests Against Amnesty (FReeper Organized)

Candidates on the Issues: Immigration

The false dilemma behind the Bush Amnesty

18 posted on 08/27/2005 10:36:29 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: dts32041

At some point legislation on this issue was going to reach critical mass. Now is the time for the 'majority of Americans' to voice their opposition and compel big changes to any legislation before it becomes law.

The only way I can think of is to stop funding the Republican Party across the board. Every time you get a phone call or something comes in the mail let them know you will not give them 2 cents until they take real action on immigration. That is what I have been doing for months.

I get a call, they give their 'we have to fight the Democrats' speech and can you please send us $100. I respond, do something about illiegal immigration and then call me. If we can get enough people to multiple that response they will get the message.

Maybe start a web site - stopgopfunding.com?


19 posted on 08/27/2005 10:37:05 AM PDT by DHerion
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To: tophat9000

There's only one thing that prevents me from rejecting Bush's plan outright- if we are going to have a guest-worker program (and I wish were weren't but both major plans have such a program), then if we don't allow those already here to be the guest workers, then we'll just have to import even MORE Mexicans. And that's the last thing I want.

I wish we WOULD have mass deportations, but given the political realities and the inevitability of a guest worker program, maybe Bush's program isn't as bad as, say, McCain's.


20 posted on 08/27/2005 10:37:35 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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