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Amid GOP divide on immigration, White House moves toward new plan
AP ^ | 8/27/05 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 08/27/2005 10:23:56 AM PDT by GOPGuide

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To: GOPGuide
"I disagree, I believe it is the Hispanic vote that is making Bush drive the country over the cliff."

If you follow the MONEY, it is those who benefit from illegal labor directly or indirectly that fill the coffers of the Washington political prostitutes and it is they who will never want Washington to upset their nest.

Think of how an economy can continue to gain momentum while fewer and fewer jobs are created. It is because the illegal laborer causes wage rates to stagnate or even plummet, increasing corporate profit. That looks good on Wall Street, but does little to help workers' wages maintain a purchasing power parity to even that of a decade ago.

101 posted on 08/27/2005 8:54:23 PM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: GOPGuide

The answer to President Bush would still be 'no'.


102 posted on 08/27/2005 9:00:14 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: DumpsterDiver; Happy2BMe; EagleUSA; GOPGuide; Dane; bayourod; jveritas
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the White House has not authorized them to discuss the policy, which is subject to change.

Is this why we haven't heard much from Dane or Bayourod or Jveritas lately ? The cheap labor lobby has realized that "matching employers with willing workers to do jobs Americans won't do" just plain isn't working ?

103 posted on 08/27/2005 9:06:41 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Altair333

If we enforced laws on employers, disallowed social services to any illegals, and built a fence, the problem of deportation would solve itself. How about taking 50% of any money sent out of country, to pay for medical care for anchor babies?


104 posted on 08/27/2005 9:39:41 PM PDT by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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To: GOPGuide

It's important for Congress not to get out in front of the President on this. He's the head of the country and the party. They should let him take the lead.


105 posted on 08/27/2005 9:41:33 PM PDT by balch3
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To: dts32041
What part of illegal don't they get?

Oh, they get it, he's just saying, "screw the American people, I'll do what the hell I please".

106 posted on 08/27/2005 9:44:39 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: rdb3
"I Hillary Rodham Clinton do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President..."

""That will never happen. ""

Well no sh*t.

What the Republican's and Democrats are doing is building a third party platform. One plank at a time. And they are doing hell of a job.

107 posted on 08/27/2005 9:51:04 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
What the Republican's and Democrats are doing is building a third party platform. One plank at a time. And they are doing hell of a job.

And if you want to pursue that platform, I wish you well.


108 posted on 08/27/2005 9:58:30 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: rdb3
Don't look to blame me. I have nothing to do with it.

You can blame the two beltway parties. I'd say they're asking for it.

109 posted on 08/27/2005 10:09:37 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
Don't look to blame me. I have nothing to do with it.

I'm not looking to blame anyone, and there's nothing to blame you for. I just wish you well.


110 posted on 08/27/2005 10:12:50 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: rdb3

Well thank you. I wish you well too!


111 posted on 08/27/2005 10:22:03 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Sam the Sham; DumpsterDiver; Happy2BMe; EagleUSA; GOPGuide; Travis McGee; HiJinx; devolve; ...
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112 posted on 08/27/2005 10:24:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: GOPGuide
"...allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before February 2004 to qualify for guest-worker visas. People smuggled in after then would be deported."

Without DOCUMENTATION, how can an illegal alien prove that unless he/she gets an employer to admit to a felony? Besides, if they claim they just walked over the border and weren't "smuggled" in - do they get to stay?

Grasp for another straw.

113 posted on 08/28/2005 4:15:53 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: GOPGuide
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114 posted on 08/28/2005 4:31:03 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: GOPGuide

Why isn't JEB doing anything about illegals? And some people suggested he run for prez? I like Jeb for many reasons...but he is married to an hisapanic who steals and does nothing to hinder the illegals in this state.


115 posted on 08/28/2005 6:59:27 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: GOPGuide
McCain is a plucking ashhole.
First he mocks Kyl's plan:
"Turn yourself in so we can send you back to Mexico," said McCain, throwing his head back in laughter

And THEN he thinks this will work:
"McCain's bill would require the undocumented workers to register with the government, pay all back taxes and a $2,000 fine, then go through a series of background checks...

Now excuuuuuuuse me you pecker wood, but if the illegals won't do the first, they SURE AS HELL 'ain't' going to do the last. And that's because McBrainiac - THEY'RE freaking CRIMINALS, Law Breakers you *&^%head!

Besides the immigration violation, on a DAILY BASIS they commit: Mail Fraud, Bank Fraud, Wire Fraud, Identity Theft, Tax Evasion, Forgery, and 77 gazillion state and local traffic law violations the minute they start "their car" - and those are the "hard working", so-called 'law abiding' ones! Furthermore, if a U.S. citizen, or lawful legal resident alien committed the same crimes WE'D be dong 35 to life in state and Federal prisons!

And Mr "all knowing 'senator' from GD Bizarro World, just were the HELL do you think an illegal making $8.00 to $12.00 an hour is; 1) going to GET the money to pay tens of thousands (hell maybe even a $100K for some who've been here decades) in back taxes AND 2) a $2000.00 fine. Huh from where? What are you going to give them "government grants"?!?

( I hate your slimy guts you maggot)

116 posted on 08/28/2005 7:23:24 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: azhenfud

Yeah, in 2006, we´ll give the guest worker amnesty to those who came before 2004.

Then we´ll give a new amnesty to those who came after 2004 in a few more years.

1986, all over again.

Sorry Lucy, Charlie Brown has already tried to kick that football. Fool me once....

We´ll know they are serious when they build an effective multiple fence system. Until then, it´s all smoke and mirrors to gull the sheeple.


117 posted on 08/28/2005 10:40:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: MrNatural

They don't want to get it and McCain is lying through his butt. He would be worse on this than Bush.


118 posted on 08/28/2005 1:46:47 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Travis McGee; freekitty
..We´ll know they are serious when they build an effective multiple fence system..

And discontinue social benefits for noncitizens, and punish employers who hire illegals ...

119 posted on 08/28/2005 9:34:56 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: GOPGuide

When the Whig party refused to deal with the issues of Union and slavery in 1860, they were usurped in their position as a major party by the republicans.

Now that the republican party refuses to deal with the important issues of the day, MOST importantly illegal immigration, who will take their place? Where can a true conservative go to be represented in their beliefs? How do we make a momentum towards what the vast majority of us believe, and if not change the party lines, then at least force the republican party to be serious?

We're suffering from success right now. Why change the MO when we're winning elections? The Democrat party is dying of itself.


120 posted on 08/29/2005 5:32:06 AM PDT by Raider220
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