Posted on 08/27/2005 7:10:39 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
Translation: China's communist goverment orders consolidation, says one free copy of Red Hat from the US is enough. Looks like they may quit calling it "Red Flag" though, and finally go ahead and steal the name "Red Hat" as well.
This is just fine with you guys, right? Why don't you ping your lists, or can I use the OSS one myself since it's "open sourced" on n3wbie's page?
Why not start a ping list for your articles? N3wBI3's is for open source, maybe you could start one for non-OSS articles?
Or as Bill Gates puts it, pocket change.
I had no idea Linux had this small of a "for-sale" market share in China.
Means a private company in the model or RedHat, not a private company named RedHat its not really worth it for the people on my ping list..
Not much if any money to be made in free software, which is why these communists love it. Novell announced last week their profits were down, again.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050825/bs_nm/tech_novell_earns_dc_1
They'll soon be laying off thousands, just like IBM has been doing since they got into the Linux "business".
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/34260.html?count=460
http://www.nysscpa.org/home/2002/802/2week/article35.htm
No it doesn't, because at least two of those that are being combined are already reselling their free copies of Red Hat in China. Not to mention there's no such thing as a "private company" in China. You're wrong, on all counts, again. Gonna ping them or not?
Things work allot better when you read your own articles (just like your stat that Linux only has a 10% share on servers you missed *probably on purpose* something in this article:
Excluding restructuring charges and a one-time gain, Novell said it earned $14 million, or 3 cents per share, the same as an adjusted profit of $14 million, or 3 cents per share, from a year earlier, which excluded the impact of a $19 million gain from a legal settlement."
Can you tell me again about Linus's father?
Isn't your list "open sourced" on your webpage? Or you like the FSF, and don't really believe in giving things away, but only when they suit you and will try to sue me for using it?
I'm obviously not hiding anything, I constantly give verifiable links that backup my points. You on the other hand, spin around like a top before you fall off the table completely.
Hey the list is out there fore reference, Use the people on it if you like but dont call it an oss ping. SWC is right just make your own antioss ping list..
So youre ignoring "Excluding restructuring charges and a one-time gain, Novell said it earned $14 million, or 3 cents per share, the same as an adjusted profit of $14 million, or 3 cents per share, from a year earlier, which excluded the impact of a $19 million gain from a legal settlement."... or you just forgot to read your own link... again..
ROFL, not only is your English terrible, your math is even worse. Restructuring costs are costs, period. Their overall revenue fell, as did their profits. Their stock fell, and now they are facing layoffs. Deal with it.
Someone who obviously never took an accounting or business class..
Now, when his BS is exposed, he resorts to personal attacks. Just like always.
Novell has been restructuring endlessly, they still can't make this Linux thing work, and will now have to layoff more employees. They just announced they are desperately going to give their new core product away for free, and their plan for the future is to make money off a clone of Microsoft .NET, which might not even be a legal implementation You can spin for them all you want, but they are obviously a company barely keeping its head above water, with no guarantees for the future except extreme competition from others.
If I were a linux fanatic like you, I'd place my bets on this new "Chinese Red Flag" bit financed by their government. They'll make sure it doesn't go under.
You don't know jack about accounting or how to run a business... your statement "cost are cost, period" demonstrates this..
Novell never recovered from the bubble bursting, they had nothing left. Windows had effectively replaced netware everywhere on the planet. Novell did not buy Suse until November of 2003, lets look at the picture between 2000 and 2003, they went from 33$ a share to 5.87 a share and this is with no Linux in their mix whatsoever.
They are now trading at $6.38 a share and have been pretty stable at the level after the initial market hype surrounding their purchase of Suse pushed their stock way too high...
Heck look at their 3 month performance
Novell will not survive on Linux any more than they could have netware. It will come down to business decisions, they are doing better than they were before they bought Suse and with new like expectations to sell a quarter million copies of their desktop in Argentina its looking good for them.
I know you really, really want Novell to fail (so much for supporting American Business) but it does not look like thats whats going to happen...
Does it upset you that Microsoft has released the source for portions of .Net and C#?
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