[elkfersupper]

I like the part where the perp was shot and killed by what amounts to an armed security guard, while his hands were in his pockets, and he was contesting the validity of a $14 camping fee.

By the time this is settled, you can probably multiply that $14 by a million.

[hoosierham]

I am really disgusted with the people who think every gov't lackey has the right to order people around and shoot them if they don't comply.

I was once one of those rangers with a gun and a argumentative boater under the influence of a few beers decided he didn't want an official warning for running in the dark with no lights. He surprised me by whipping out his pipe and saying bang!Wrote him a citation to appear instead of a warning.

No shots fired!

Same place a drunk,high teenager wrecked his mom's car,tore up his temp license instead of handing it to me,then pulls a knife. Disarmed him and sent him to the county jail.

No shots fired!

Now how many want to tell me that they should have been executed for momentary stupidity?

I must admit,that I rec'd almost no training so had to rely on my own judgment. Indiana has(or had) an interesting concept in that many peace officers may be hired and put on the job with full powers which expire in one year if academy training is not completed . Yet there are almost no cases of bad shootings by those minimally trained officers . After the dept I worked for started receiving formal training the new rangers got big heads and one pulled a gun on a woman stopped for speeding. Another trained young officer with several years experience was in the habit of taking his gun out and holding it behind his back during every traffic stop;he was told by the chief to stop doing that.

Maybe we should require all law enforcemment persons to be at least 25 with verifiable non-police employment of at least 2 full years after school.