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Panel Spares S. Dakota Air base, Senator [Thune] Relieved
Reuters ^ | 8/26/05 | David Lawder

Posted on 08/26/2005 10:39:42 AM PDT by My2Cents

Panel spares S. Dakota air base, senator relieved
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:48 PM ET

By David Lawder

WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - A military panel on Friday voted to keep open South Dakota's Ellsworth Air Base, a decision that overturned a Pentagon recommendation and spared the state's Republican senator a major political defeat.

The decision to preserve the base for the Cold War-era B-1 bomber was a victory for Sen. John Thune, a freshman Republican who beat former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle last November based on his claims that he would be better placed to save the facility.

The base is the second-largest employer in the largely rural state of 750,00 residents.

"This is a great day for South Dakota, but we think it's a great day for America," Thune told reporters immediately after the decision by the Base Realignment and Closure Commission.

Thune had told voters last year that his Republican Party connections to President George W. Bush would help protect the base, but he was shocked to learn on May 13 that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had put Ellsworth on the closure list.

Thune said he spent more time with base commissioners in the last three months than with his family to persuade them that it was a mistake to close Ellsworth. He also moved to distance himself from the White House, which had recruited him to seek the Senate set.

DOLLAR SAVINGS

In the first round of base closings in a decade, the Pentagon aims to save tens of billions of dollars over two decades and reshape its forces to face new and emerging threats. Its proposed cuts affected more than 840 facilities and called for 26,000 net job losses.

In the commission's third straight day of deliberations over the fate of those facilities, it did not appear to be ready to grant New Mexico's Cannon Air Force Base a similar reprieve. The base, with 2,824 jobs, is slated to close and send its F-16 fighter jets to other bases.

The panel defeated a motion to keep Cannon open by ordering the Air Force to move training jets there. It will continue deliberations on the base on Friday afternoon.

In the Ellsworth decision, the Air Force had wanted to consolidate its 67-plane B-1 fleet at a single airstrip, Dyess Air Force Base in Texas. The supersonic bombers were developed in the 1970s for nuclear strikes, but have been converted to deliver conventional weapons, which they did in Iraq.

But the nine-member panel voted 8-1 to keep Ellsworth open, citing a lack of meaningful cost savings if its 24 bombers were moved to Dyess, coupled with a larger-than-estimated economic impact on its home community of Rapid City.

The Air Force had counted the transfer of people to other bases as a cost savings, but commissioners had disputed those, saying that the move would actually add costs, citing a per hour B-1 operating costs of $23,754 from Ellsworth and $31,519 at Dyess, due to longer traveling distances to training ranges.

"We have no savings and we're essentially moving the airplanes from one very very good base to another very very good base." said commissioner Harold Gehman, a retired Navy Admiral.

Commissioners also said legal challenges that threaten training ranges in Texas were a factor in the decision. Land owners have alleged that bombers screaming overhead at 300 feet on training runs create too much noise and wake turbulence, a problem not experienced in South Dakota.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: baseclosure; brac; ellsworthafb; usaf
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1 posted on 08/26/2005 10:39:46 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
Land owners have alleged that bombers screaming overhead at 300 feet on training runs create too much noise and wake turbulence,

Personally, I think that would be cool.

2 posted on 08/26/2005 10:41:59 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

They'll be moving NAS Oceana to FL and renaming it NAS Nepotism.


3 posted on 08/26/2005 10:42:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: My2Cents
In the Ellsworth decision, the Air Force had wanted to consolidate its 67-plane B-1 fleet at a single airstrip

First the USAF wanted to reduce the numbers of B1's from 90 to 67...and then they wanted to put all the remaining eggs in one terrorist target basket...

4 posted on 08/26/2005 10:44:54 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Time for a new tag line...)
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To: stuartcr

LOL...Sorry to laugh, but I think you've nailed it.


5 posted on 08/26/2005 10:45:08 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

Go 34th BS Thunderbirds!...


6 posted on 08/26/2005 10:46:31 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Time for a new tag line...)
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To: My2Cents
The decision to preserve the base for the Cold War-era B-1 bomber was a victory for Sen. John Thune, a freshman Republican who beat former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle last November based on his claims that he would be better placed to save the facility.

This decision had better have been based on the above. Thune campaigned heavily on this & is owed it. To rid us of little Tommy is PRICELESS.

7 posted on 08/26/2005 10:47:21 AM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: My2Cents

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471162/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471302/posts


8 posted on 08/26/2005 10:47:43 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: My2Cents

Rapid City dodges a bullet. This time.


9 posted on 08/26/2005 10:54:18 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: My2Cents
I'm very glad for Senator Thune. This was important for his state and his reputation with being a new senator and all.
10 posted on 08/26/2005 10:59:11 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: My2Cents
My dad was a maintenance officer on the very first B-1 delivered to Dyess (balls 5, I believe). I have lived at Dyess and McConnell and had my share of B-1's screaming over the house. Yes, it is most definitely cool.
11 posted on 08/26/2005 11:00:34 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: PAR35

Our friend "Search" failed to reveal those earlier threads, and I even typed in the exact title on the second link, using the single-S "S. Dakota" in the title. So, go figure.


12 posted on 08/26/2005 11:01:19 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: conservativecorner

I agree.


13 posted on 08/26/2005 11:01:55 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

I ignore the post police now. I used to get irritated but if thats what makes their life fulfilling then I am happy for them. Be not afraid to make the new post!


14 posted on 08/26/2005 11:05:02 AM PDT by USAFJeeper
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Here's a related commentary yesterday by Peggy Noonan in OpinionJournal.com.

Think Dark
Don't close those military bases. We may need them someday soon.

The federal government is doing something right now that is exactly the opposite of what it should be doing. It is forgetting to think dark. It is forgetting to imagine the unimaginable.

Governments deal in data. People in government see a collection of data as something to be used, manipulated or ignored, but whatever they do with it, it's real. It's numbers on a page. You can point to them.

To think dark, on the other hand, takes imagination--and something more.

As adults living in the world, we know some things. As Murphy taught us, if it can go wrong, it will go wrong. As the journalist Harrison Salisbury said, in summing up what he'd learned in a lifetime observing history, "Expect the unexpected." As JFK taught us, "There's always some poor son of a bitch who doesn't get the word"--someone in the field who doesn't know what's going on and does exactly the wrong thing. As Ronald Reagan once said in conversation, man has never invented a weapon he didn't ultimately use. And as life has taught us since 9/11, we live in a dangerous age and the dangers aren't over, if they will ever be.

When you think dark, you're often and inescapably thinking with your gut, a vulgar way of referring to a certainty that lives somewhere between your spirit, soul and intellect. Your gut knows things your brain can't assert as fact because they're not facts, not yet. It can take guts to listen to your gut.

Right now the federal government is considering closing or consolidating hundreds of military bases throughout the U.S. A government commission is meeting this week to vote on specific base-closing proposals in the Pentagon's plan. Yesterday they voted to close big bases like Fort Monmouth, N.J., and Fort Gillem, Ga. (They voted to save the naval base in Groton, Conn.)

The Pentagon says this huge and historic base-closing plan will save $50 billion over the next two decades. They may be right. But it's a bad plan anyway, a bad idea, and exactly the wrong thing to do in terms of future and highly possible needs.

The Pentagon has some obvious logic on its side--we have a lot of bases, and they cost a lot of money--and numbers on paper. They have put forward their numbers on savings, redundancies, location and obsolescence.

But they're wrong. What they ought to do, and what the commission reviewing the Pentagon's plan ought to do, is sit down and think dark.

In the rough future our country faces, bad things will happen. We all know this. It's hard to imagine some of those things on a beautiful day with the sun shining and the markets full, but let's imagine anyway.

Among the things we may face over the next decade, as we all know, is another terrorist attack on American soil. But let's imagine the next one has many targets, is brilliantly planned and coordinated. Imagine that there are already 100 serious terror cells in the U.S., two per state. The members of each cell have been coming over, many but not all crossing our borders, for five years. They're working jobs, living lives, quietly planning.

Imagine they're planning that on the same day in the not-so-distant future, they will set off nuclear suitcase bombs in six American cities, including Washington, which will take the heaviest hit. Hundreds of thousands may die; millions will be endangered. Lines will go down, and to make it worse the terrorists will at the same time execute the cyberattack of all cyberattacks, causing massive communications failure and confusion. There will be no electricity; switching and generating stations will also have been targeted. There will be no word from Washington; the extent of the national damage will be as unknown as the extent of local damage is clear. Daily living will become very difficult, and for months--food shortages, fuel shortages.

Let's make it worse. On top of all that, on the day of the suitcase nukings, a half dozen designated cells will rise up and assassinate national, state and local leaders. There will be chaos, disorder, widespread want; law-enforcement personnel, or what remains of them, will be overwhelmed and outmatched.

Impossibly grim? No, just grim. Novelistic? Sure. But if you'd been a novelist on Sept. 10, 2001, and dreamed up a plot in which two huge skyscrapers were leveled, the Pentagon was hit, and the wife of the solicitor general of the United States was desperately phoning him from a commercial jet that had been turned into a missile, you would have been writing something wild and improbable that nonetheless happened a day later.

And all this of course is just one scenario. The madman who runs North Korea could launch a missile attack on the United States tomorrow, etc. There are limitless possibilities for terrible trouble.

So we are imagining America being forced to fight for its survival on its streets. How does this get us to base closings? On the day the big terrible thing happens there will of course be shock and chaos. People will feel the need for protection--for the feeling of protection and for the thing itself. They will want and need American troops nearby and they will want and need American military bases up and operating to help maintain some semblance of order. The very presence, the very fact of these bases will help in the big recovery.

That's what all these bases are going to be needed for. To help us survive a very bad time.

We don't need these bases for sentimental reasons. We don't need them because local congressmen want the jobs and money they provide. We don't need them because we must never change the structure and operations of our defense system. We need them because someday they may very well help us survive as a nation. Seems worth the price, doesn't it?

This of course is pure guessing on my part. I can't prove it with data. My gut says that when things turn dark, we will need all the help we can get.

It's easy to say, "Oh, if we think in such an apocalyptic fashion, the bad guys have already won." But that's not a thought, it's a slogan. Think dark and you're prepared for darkness, and preparation will be half the battle.

Each day each of us should--must--move forward individually with hope, faith and optimism. Why not? Life is good and God is real. But in terms of public policy we should make our plans based on the assumption that thinking dark is thinking safe.

Because if it can go wrong it will go wrong, because man has never invented a weapon he did not ultimately use, and because the beginning of wisdom is to expect the unexpected.

President Bush and Congress are to review and either accept or reject the final Pentagon/commission plan in November. They should reject it. Leave it where it is. Think dark.

Ms. Noonan is a contributing editor of The Wall Street Journal and author of "A Heart, a Cross, and a Flag" (Wall Street Journal Books/Simon & Schuster), a collection of post-Sept. 11 columns, which you can buy from the OpinionJournal bookstore. Her column appears Thursdays.

15 posted on 08/26/2005 11:05:26 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

Outstanding!! The South Dakota senat seat of John Thune is more important than any slight savings in moving the planes to another base.


16 posted on 08/26/2005 11:08:45 AM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: My2Cents

I read that article and I think she is wrong. The military forces are bleeding money on obsolete facilities and bases. I have been at assignments where we still had the big iron desks used in the Vietnam war era! One of my drawers could never be closed, if it did it required a crow bar to open!

Point is, we couldnt afford to replace the furniture even because that pool of money was spread way too thin over all the out dated facilities we had to keep up with. You cannot have a good force when you are not able to maintain it properly.


17 posted on 08/26/2005 11:11:49 AM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: USAFJeeper

I agree. Frankly, unless one is on FR 24/7, no one is ever going to see every post. I'm appreciative of the one's I see, even if the same thing has been posted three times already over the span of the last 12 hours.


18 posted on 08/26/2005 11:19:21 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: n-tres-ted

I hate to sound political, and I know the commission exists to take these base closings out of the political process (sort of), but I agree with you, and am very relieved for Sen. Thune's sake, about this news. We're talking about the second largest employer in So. Dakota here...I think the commission recognized that Ellsworth's closure would have been devastating to the Rapid City area.


19 posted on 08/26/2005 11:23:35 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: stuartcr

Actually, it is named Cecil Field. The decision to relocate to Florida may well be "nepotism"; however, the decision is at the moment a "hammer". Local officials have and are in the process of rezoning areas immediately adjacent to Oceana for housing developments. The encroachment is already in place and new "residents" are beginning to complain about the noise. The directive is, if they want to keep their base, they need to reverse direction and restore the buffers.


20 posted on 08/26/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT by Tucson (Age doesn't always bring wisdom; sometimes it comes alone)
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