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To: Mylo; nightdriver
What isn't science is presupposing supernatural intervention by an unmeasurable and unknown and non replicable unobserved and unobservable force.

Why does it have to be supernatural? Could it be a force which drives life that is both intelligent and purposeful and still be a natural force like gravity?

A good example of the problem with the idea of random mutation is the killer ant armies in Africa, which have a king and queen and highly organized and structured existence including their child rearing, nomadic existence and the chemical language they communicate with each other with. This highly sophisticated species simply could not have come into existence through random mutation and natural selection and have such a sophisticated social structure.

Everything that is alive is has a purpose and there must be some force out there that opposes the natural tendency for entropy and provides direction and intelligence as well. Science will eventually discover what this force is, but it doesn't appear like it will be very soon.
121 posted on 08/26/2005 2:04:30 PM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

If it isn't supernatural than it is measurable, observable and replicable; you know, like GRAVITY. Unless you want to wrap a natural force like gravity with the mantle of godhood you have a very confused theology.

Army ants are not irreducibly complex, and could easily arise from mutations that effect chemical signaling and thus behavior of the ant colony. And they don't have a "king" they have drones.

Energy counters the natural tendency for entropy. If you look at your window you may see a glowing yellow ball that just happens to provide energy in abundance to this verdant orb.


122 posted on 08/26/2005 2:12:17 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: microgood
This highly sophisticated species simply could not have come into existence through random mutation and natural selection and have such a sophisticated social structure.

I remember reading about people that believed the sun was much smaller than the earth and the sun and moon were about the same size and NO WAY were they larger than a few feet since there was no force known that could keep that large an object up in the sky ...

141 posted on 08/26/2005 4:43:48 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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