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Do not DARE call Islamists Kamikaze
Vanity | 08/26/05 | Ronin

Posted on 08/25/2005 11:00:49 PM PDT by Ronin

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To: Ronin

How about "salamikaze?"


41 posted on 08/26/2005 6:52:35 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

you need two "a"'s after the "l", though...


42 posted on 08/26/2005 6:53:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

And the US did not even rape, or pillage as they moved up to Japan to take it over. Imagine if it were reversed, and we as a country WERE facing pillaging and looting and enslavement (not freedom) from the otherside, as they approached the ports of Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles.


43 posted on 08/26/2005 6:54:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: usafsk

I find it hard to imagine that any American could have nostalgia and sympathy for a kamikaze.

As do I, the context I was speaking of was the typhoon the knocked out the fleet trying to invade Japan, not the pilots during WW2. Just to be clear.


44 posted on 08/26/2005 6:55:29 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Ronin

Here's a tip. Don't glorify our enemies. Then, or now.


45 posted on 08/26/2005 6:57:42 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
you need two "a"'s after the "l", though...

Well, it's a tough stylistic choice, for sure.

"Salaam" as in peace, or "salami" as in sausage. I prefer the latter. ;-)

46 posted on 08/26/2005 6:58:45 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ronin
Q: why did the Islamo-terrorist blow himself up?

A: Because he could.
47 posted on 08/26/2005 7:00:12 AM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Windsong
And he said "No man cometh unto the Father except through Me".

Pretty much rules out anyone who denies him as God's Son and Savior.

I've wondered if the Father might yet have a say in this matter. While no Bible scholar, the verse does seem open to varying interpretations. It could mean that the Son is the gateway to the Father in that he blesses the worthy even though they may not be Christians and perhaps rejects the unworthy even though they may call themselves Christians. It could also mean that the path to the Father is to follow the way of the Son. This would also seem to leave room for some of those who do not think of themselves as Christians.

In any case, we Christians can miss the fact that the Father has a unique purpose and covenant for the decedents of Isaac (the Jews) that continues to this day. In the Gospel we see Jesus, the highly observant Jew and direct descendant of Abraham and Isaac, referencing Deuteronomy (the law) more than any other book of the Hebrew Bible. His existence seems to reinforce the unique place the Jews have in God's plan. With that in mind, I can not find it in myself to subscribe to the narrow interpretation of this verse.

48 posted on 08/26/2005 7:04:36 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: r9etb
How about "salamikaze?"

Sounds like a dangerous but delicious sandwich ingredient.

49 posted on 08/26/2005 7:07:20 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Ronin
They are not Kamikaze...

They are islamakazi (foul wind)...

Big difference.
50 posted on 08/26/2005 7:16:11 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Ronin
I didn't like your title and was all set to argue with you ... but you turned me. Good article and I agree with you.

I would like to help shovel a bit more pig fat, if I could, on the corpse in question. Islamonazi homicide bombers are not only cowards ... they are monumentally stupid. Any retard could figure out that a deity that requires murder and condones slavery (yes it does) is not god at all. Not even a 'small g" god. Allah worship is nothing more than a demoniacally inspired death cult. How silly we were in times past to think that Mohammedans worshiped the True God ... just by another name.
51 posted on 08/26/2005 7:17:46 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Brian Allen

I tend to agree. Victor Hanson likens them both to a "save face"/honor system that really does not value human life. Many kamikazes were NOT volunteers by the end of the war, and after Okinawa, the Japanese government was having a helluva time getting kamikaze pilots. Guess everyone didn't care for that kind of "honor."


52 posted on 08/26/2005 7:18:56 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS
Kamikazes were the original cruise missiles. I reckon our navy must have been utterly amazed when the tactic first appeared during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Kamikaze pilots bore no resemblance at all to the child-killing Islamic nutters.



USS New Mexico hit by a kamikaze, 12 May 1945.



And of course, the largest suicide mission in history--the battleship Yamato carried only enough fuel for a one-way trip when it left to attack the US fleet off of Okinawa. It was destroyed by carrier planes before it got there.
53 posted on 08/26/2005 7:40:02 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Antoninus

I find them quite similar---the main difference is that (so far) kamikazes ONLY targeted military personnel. But as the Japanese grew more desperate, given their barbarism at Bataan, the Chinese experimentation camps, and so on, I have no doubt that the kamikazes would have been used to attack civilian targets if there were any in range.


54 posted on 08/26/2005 7:44:45 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Imagine if it were reversed, and we as a country WERE facing pillaging and looting and enslavement (not freedom) from the otherside, as they approached the ports of Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

Not hard to imagine, it's happening, culturally by the ACLU/Left and possibly militarily when the Islamo-fascists we're speaking of here decide to strike again on our soil. As a "free" society we are unwittingly (to many) setting ourselves up for that future battle.

Will we have the stomach as a nation, and enough honorable men/women left, to fight and win it?

55 posted on 08/26/2005 7:50:47 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Ronin
Kashikomarimashita.
56 posted on 08/26/2005 7:51:32 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: LS
I find them quite similar---the main difference is that (so far) kamikazes ONLY targeted military personnel. But as the Japanese grew more desperate, given their barbarism at Bataan, the Chinese experimentation camps, and so on, I have no doubt that the kamikazes would have been used to attack civilian targets if there were any in range.

But the fact remains that they were uniformed military at the controls of a military aircraft. You can't really argue from the position of what might have happened.

The Japanese had a lot to apologize for after WWII, no doubt about it. But the Kamikaze attacks are not on that list.
57 posted on 08/26/2005 8:01:27 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: F15Eagle
Actually most of the civilians killed at Pearl Harbor died when unexploded American anti-aircraft shells landed in Pearl City and other communities and detonated.

During the attack, the Japanese pilots were expressly ordered to avoid going near the hospital ship Solace, which was anchored near the upper end of the harbor. Later on in the war (I believe during the Battle of Okinawa), another hospital ship was targeted and struck by a kamikaze, but I have never seen anything that indicates that hospital ships were deliberate targets.

I'm not making any excuses for this pilot, but when you are three miles up and five miles out and starting your attack run on a ship, it is quite difficult to identify the ship you are targeting.

58 posted on 08/26/2005 8:20:02 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.")
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To: Ronin
Mo'ham'ikazis break de vine wind

Their psychotic greedy Mo'ham', Hellfire and JDAMnation be upon him and them, was a mass murdering rapist bandit gang leader jealous of the far more productive Jewish and Christian cultures among others, whose more intelligent followers over the following half dozen generations created this Islam religion so as to better justify their demands for obedience of societies conquored or nearly exterminated.

Islam's terrorists are but Einsatzgruppen al-Mecca. Hitler appreciated the devout muslims Jew killing just as the devout muslims appreciated Hitler's Final Solution.

Americans must read Islam's battle plan Mein Koran, together with their other "holy" scriptures as 1930's history of savage annihilation is NOW repeating while our media is cannonizing that crazy woman camped in Crawford. Our military is ordered to play cops in every theater of war crimes war.

59 posted on 08/26/2005 8:24:38 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Brian Allen

Thank you for your voice of reason.

I had the opportunity when I was in Japan twenty years ago to speak with a man who was 9 years old near the end of WWII. He remembers his teacher committing suicide because he flubbed the prayer to the emperor that morning, and had been dishonored because the emperor was worshipped as a literal god on earth.

Yes, the word kamikaze comes from the two typhoons that sunk two separate mongol invading fleets, but it was called divine wind because it supported the Japanese position that they were the chosen people of the gods and were the only truly human race on the planet. The Kamikaze pilots were the implementations of this divine wrath and were the agents of the emperor god of Japan in dispensing judgment upon the subhuman barbarians who were coming to invade the holy land of Japan.

Each kamikze flight was prefaced with a religious ceremony, including prayers to the emperor god of Japan and a dedication of the pilots to be instruments of his divine wrath.

The differences between Japanese kamikaze suicides and islamofascists are not as great as the original poster would have you believe.


60 posted on 08/26/2005 8:37:26 AM PDT by frgoff
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