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To: RobFromGa
There is no pay raise with the FairTax plan, as many of us have stated, and been ridiculed for stating.

That depends entirely on how you are currently paid. My brother's business, for example, pays his employees as contracted labor at a set rate. He does this to limit mandates and red tape from the government being imposed on him. The individuals are responsible for their tax burden, and the Fair Tax would eliminate that burden from them.

I have my own concerns about how the monthly stipend the Fair Tax advocates would be abused by the class warfare crowd, but increased take home pay is possible for many.

15 posted on 08/24/2005 10:00:34 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
The individuals are responsible for their tax burden, and the Fair Tax would eliminate that burden from them.
If the individuals are performing a service their gross income could be subject to the 23% fairtax....then they'd pay tax again when they spend what's left.

In the mean time the IRS has strict requirements for determining independent contractors from employees...tell your brother to be careful.

23 posted on 08/24/2005 10:11:44 PM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: Gunslingr3
Yes there is NO pay raise. There is, however, an increase in net pay due to the removal of federal withholding. Ask your brother if the rate he pays his contract employees is gross or net. If it is net then his company is paying their taxes for them
645 posted on 09/01/2005 7:32:11 PM PDT by dewey715 (Semantics, such a waste of time.)
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To: Gunslingr3

No, no increase in take home pay is possible, for the fairtax math to work. But thats the Catch 22.

If people increase their take home pay — then its not the Fairtax plan. Its some other go-round. Fairtax plan is for workers do voluntarily give up 30% of their pay, and then pay the high sales taxes with what they have left.

Thats the only way prices will go down. So —prices won’t go down. People won’t give up big chunk of their gross pay for that deal.

Fairtax MATH depend on all the workers donating their money to the employer. Whatever money workers USED to pay in taxes, they have to pay to the employer for the math to work. Otherwise, the math doesnt work.

This whole idea of lowering prices is a figment — its not even in HR25. It has nothing to do with HR 25. Employers could do this now — or later. Workers could do this now — or later. Nothing to do with HR 25. Its blowing smoke


712 posted on 06/28/2008 4:41:18 AM PDT by MortonMark (Fairtax absurdity)
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