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I'm not a fan of Robert Reich, and disagree with him completely, but this is a back door tactic I didn't even think about until he wrote it.
1 posted on 08/24/2005 3:15:05 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

Uh, I work from home...does that mean no guns at home or just my work area? What if a person with a cwp visits?


26 posted on 08/24/2005 3:28:43 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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About 17 employees are murdered every week in American workplaces by someone with a gun,

To come up with that figure, I suspect he is including robberies by people that don't work there. ...Or he is just making it up. I also suspect he might be including suicides as well.

That said, how many of these times is anyone else there armed?

27 posted on 08/24/2005 3:29:11 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Bookmark bump...


30 posted on 08/24/2005 3:31:32 PM PDT by dbwz
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Government just isnt any ordinary two armed pickpocket of 'God given rights'...... its an ding danged Harry Houdini of an octopus pickpocket...

To be eternally guarded against....

imo

31 posted on 08/24/2005 3:31:46 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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What about at a gun shop? I wonder if that's their plan.


32 posted on 08/24/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by jjones9853
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No guns at the police station or at military bases, it's against OSHA reg's ya know... [/rolling eyes


33 posted on 08/24/2005 3:33:21 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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True to form, the National Rifle Association is taking a stand against these companies, and in favor of people who want to bring guns to work.

im so shocked, you mean they are actually fighting for something they believe in. /sarcasm

fighting gun control is one the main purposes of the NRA,so why does the author choose to word the sentenc like this? could it be because it pisses liberals off that conservatives believe in something

34 posted on 08/24/2005 3:34:37 PM PDT by curtisgardner
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"Researchers at the University of North Carolina have shown that killings are five times more likely to occur at workplaces where guns are allowed as where they’re prohibited"

False.

Discounting all law enforcement is necessary to make this statement plausible. Also, "guns allowed" is quite different than 'not disallowed'.

Another case of public funds used to fund a "study" designed for a specific predetermined outcome.


35 posted on 08/24/2005 3:34:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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I own and operate a small "mom & pop" retail jewelry store. I open carry in my store and have for over 10 years. A few times a week someone will ask, "Have you ever had to use that?" while pointing at my nickel plated, pearl handled .45, to which I always reply, "I just did... it is called a deterrent and you would never think of coming in here to rob me now, would you?" All the local thugs know I would shoot back, so they go rob somebody that won't. I can just imagine what would happen if they passed a law like this. *shiver*
38 posted on 08/24/2005 3:42:24 PM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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Dear Mr. Reich,

I think this is a terrific idea! As you say, when guns are at a place of business, people who try to make their living there are at risk! We need to be sure that guns are banned from all work places, and places of business! Of course, this would have to include any armed security patrols, as well as police. Please note that the vast majority of policement shot in the line of duty, are shot with their own weapons. And we've all heard about cases where security guards have gone nuts, and either shot themselves (some accidentally, others committing suicide, like the Wackenhut security guard in Independence, MO a few years ago) or their co-workers, or clients.

I think that for our safety, it's imperative for the government to ban all firearms from ALL workplaces and businesses. Especially banks!

Sincerely,

Willie Sutton


39 posted on 08/24/2005 3:42:40 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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3rd Reich ping


40 posted on 08/24/2005 3:44:39 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (DON'T BICKER, DRINK LIQUOR-DON'T THINK, JUST DRINK.)
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These companies -- including the energy giant Halliburton;

I'm pretty wary of left wing DemocRATS who praise Halliburton.

45 posted on 08/24/2005 3:51:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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Robert who....Wasn't he in that movie, "The Incredible Shrinking Man?"


52 posted on 08/24/2005 3:57:41 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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About 17 employees are murdered every week in American workplaces by someone with a gun, making gun-related killings the third-biggest safety hazard facing American workers

The pen is mightier than the sword, yet no license or government approval is required of journalists.

Every day, ten of thousands of journalists publish items that are provably false.

Nothing is more important to society than true factual information. It must be licensed and government approved before publishing. After three provably false items, the journalist and company loses their right of free speech and is prohibited from publishing anything.

It’s only common sense!

Watch out Robert Reich, NYT, Wapo, Krugman, Dowd...

Half /Sarcasm

54 posted on 08/24/2005 3:58:31 PM PDT by RJL
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Just as banning guns in a city won't stop gun crimes, preventing a person from having a firearm for protection on the work site won't save employees from the nuts who will go home and them come back with their guns after being fired.

Reich is such an annoying little man. I can't believe the Air Force was pushing Reich as the guru of Quality Force Management. I hated watching those mandatory videos of Reich lecturing me on socialism.


56 posted on 08/24/2005 4:03:17 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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Is he honestly trying to suggest that somebody who wants to shoot up their coworkers will be discouraged from doing so if the company adopts anti-gun policies? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people who go on a shooting rampage at work aren't too concerned about getting fired.


57 posted on 08/24/2005 4:04:43 PM PDT by Junior_G
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About 17 employees are murdered every week in American workplaces by someone with a gun

16.95 of which are convenience and liquor store cashiers.

58 posted on 08/24/2005 4:06:17 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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Well, several things.

First: "These companies ... deserve the thanks of workers in Oklahoma and in any other states where gun-fawning lawmakers are intent on endangering them."

I dont' guess it occurred to this dofus that a lot of workers like being able to bring their guns to work. Maybe they go duck hunting before or squirrel hunting after work or maybe just go plinking.

True to form, the National Rifle Association is taking a stand against these companies, and in favor of people who want to bring guns to work. It’s even organizing a boycott of ConocoPhillips gas stations.

"OSHA ought to ban guns in every workplace across America -- thereby preempting the Oklahoma legislation and sending the National Rifle Association packing."

Does this ban apply to gunshops too? How about walmart that sells guns? Strictly applied, one wouldn't be able to sell a single gun.

And while we're on this subject, where does the workplace end? Could target define the work place to include it's parking lot?

How about the self-employed? If you work at home, would you be allowed to keep a gun in your workplace? Don't laugh, the Clinton administration actually published an opinion that home schoolers who had guns at home were in violation of the Gun Free School Zones act.


59 posted on 08/24/2005 4:06:27 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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About 17 employees are murdered every week in American workplaces by someone with a gun...

Who wants to take bets that the "workplace" has been extended to the dark alley across the street from the actual workplace? Sort of like the way liberals like to inflate the number of "children" killed by guns by incluing 19- through 23-year-old gangbangers.

60 posted on 08/24/2005 4:06:29 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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If business wants to take away your ability to defend yourself, then sue them when ever they fail to defend you. Encourage every relative of victims to sue whoever takes away your right to self defense. I see an opportunity for contingency tort lawyers.


61 posted on 08/24/2005 4:10:21 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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