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To: csense
"As Diamond has pointed out, if you start with the premise that the human body is a machine, literally rather than metaphorically, then you have no choice but to postulate that all of it's mechanisms are deterministic."

No. See the relevant part in my reply to Diamond, #388. THanks for the link.

"if it is true that sentience can not be objectively demonstrated"

Sentience can be objectively demonstrated. SImple evidence is this back and forth posting.

"Given that, your statement can only be objectively true, if you can provide a clear and concise defintion of term exist, without utilizing and aspect of sentience , either in method or substance."

LOL! Dude! The function of sentience is required to give any definition whatsoever. If there is no sentience, the function sentience doesn't exist. Definitions are functions of sentience. Hence there are no definitions.

Here's the objective def of exist: exist=whatever is. The physical does not depend on the function sentience. It exists whether sentience exists, or not. Definitions however don't exist if there's no sentience.

389 posted on 08/26/2005 3:29:14 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
Sentience can be objectively demonstrated. SImple evidence is this back and forth posting.

Sigh...you're contradicting yourself.

LOL! Dude!...

Well, look it...I'm not trying to be rude, but, you're all messed up. You seem be having great difficulty not only following a philosphical argument, but constructing one.

No offense, but I have no further interest in discussing this.

390 posted on 08/26/2005 5:55:12 PM PDT by csense
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