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To: spunkets
The theory of evolution already falsified your conjecture, before it was announced.

Hardly. Evolution has not been replicated in an experimental setting either before or after ID.

Who then?

Some intelligence which, while unable to create matter ex nihilo, is able to manipulate it subtly enough to create living things.

Like the Demiurge of the Gnostics, for example. Or the Satan of the Albigensian Cathars.

105 posted on 08/24/2005 9:24:05 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
Evolution has not been replicated in an experimental setting

Sorry. Too many experiments on drug-resistance in microorganisms, etc, give the lie to that sound bite.

106 posted on 08/24/2005 9:32:45 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: wideawake
"Like the Demiurge of the Gnostics, for example. Or the Satan of the Albigensian Cathars."


Whatever. I promise not to be a philosopher if you promise not to be a scientist.
112 posted on 08/24/2005 9:40:56 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: wideawake
"Hardly. Evolution has not been replicated in an experimental setting either before or after ID."

The experimental setting you refer to is a lab. In general, lab work applies to the mechanisms in the process of evolution, not the process itself. The process itself usually takes to long. The same happens in astronomy.

Evolution looks at the results that were already generated, just as in astronomy and physical laws are used to attempt to know and understand the set of results in hand. Reproducing those results again is not necessary, because they are most often duplicates and near duplicates anyway.

"Some intelligence which, while unable to create matter ex nihilo, is able to manipulate it subtly enough to create living things. Like the Demiurge of the Gnostics, for example. Or the Satan of the Albigensian Cathars."

Why can't you be honest, you have no intention whatsoever of allowing that contention to stand. The Catholics, under the authority of the Pope, tossed 200 of them into the fire, because they refused to believe and obey them.

Here's one of the things the Pope did:

Torture
"Torture was used after 1252. "On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled ad extirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors." It was a common part of the medieval judicial system and not particular to the inquisition. The torture methods used by inquisitors were mild compared to secular courts, as they were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the most common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well.

So much for being led by the Holy Spirit. Here's what God, the Holy Spirit says about the matter, Matt 10:14
" If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town."

Nothing has changed since that time and before. If the IDers could get away with it, they'd return to prison, torture and murder. They can't, so the art of the con is all they have left.

162 posted on 08/24/2005 11:03:35 AM PDT by spunkets
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