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To: ScaniaBoy
"Definitely, the evidence regarding the Gorelick wall points to a cover up to protect the Clinton's from unwarranted investigations, but I would like to make the point that this is not the only agenda that was (and is) played out. There are many careers riding on the outcome of this affair. (And not only careers, but the balance between State and DOD.)"

Yes, I certainly agree and have also argued on other threads that there are loads and loads of careerists in State, CIA, and other intel agencies (and Clintonlite political appointees who are holdovers or who burrowed into civil service positions) who desperately want a lot of failures of the past decade to be covered up and/or forgotten. The vicious public salvos from Joe Wilson, Richard Clarke et al are just the most visible aspect of the war that's going on within both government and media -- a war for control of past, present and future. The people like Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame who remain burrowed into the bureaucracies cannot allow Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Goss to succeed.... no matter what the cost to accurate intel or our national security, there are many many lib dinosaurs who are trying to have the last word. They must be vanquished NOW.
118 posted on 08/24/2005 11:30:22 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Enchante
They must be vanquished NOW.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Sorry I forgot to "ping" you, but you found my post anyway.

:-)

119 posted on 08/24/2005 11:34:36 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Enchante; ScaniaBoy
And that is why the Iraq / Al Queda connection is so dangerous. And it may become even worse if it is shown that not only is it a "Muslim thing" but that it can also be traced back to the non-acknowledged activities by the Soviet Union and its proxies.

Definitely, the evidence regarding the Gorelick wall points to a cover up to protect the Clinton's from unwarranted investigations, but I would like to make the point that this is not the only agenda that was (and is) played out. There are many careers riding on the outcome of this affair. (And not only careers, but the balance between State and DOD.)

What? You're suggesting a link between Islam and Communist philosophies? But Islam is a religion of peace, and communism was defeated!< /sarc>

Wow, good info there. That makes things a bit clearer with regard to what we're really facing. This isn't just an isolated failure on the part of Gorelick, but a systemic problem, an infestation of thought that goes back to McCarthy's suspicions.

The task of uprooting such a beast will likely cause huge bureaucratic upheaval, so the status quo guys who just want to protect their careers will likely also side with the malevolent elements.

The more that comes out, the more we see what Schaffer, et al is really coming up against. These guys are patriots, no doubt. I certainly hope the leadership, Rumsfeld, Goss, Rice, etc. decide to push this thing forward.

121 posted on 08/25/2005 3:59:01 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Fairtax.org)
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