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IBM Woos the World's Geeks
REDHERRING ^ | August 22, 2005

Posted on 08/23/2005 4:10:05 PM PDT by Golden Eagle

IBM Woos the World's Geeks - Big Blue will let software developers in Brazil, Russia, India, and China use company products for free.

IBM announced an initiative Monday to encourage developers in emerging economies to work on the computing giant’s open standards technology, a computing framework for which hardware and software specifications are publicly available.

As part of the initiative, the Armonk, New York-based company said that for the first time, developers in Brazil, Russia, India, China—popularly known as BRIC countries—will get instant access to IBM’s hardware and software portfolio from their desktop at no charge.

(Excerpt) Read more at redherring.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; brassbuzzard; china; computerwars; goldendodo; himom; ibm; linux; microsoft; msibmfeud; opensource; troll; zot; zotdabuzzard
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Isn't the trade imbalance with these countries large enough already, without us giving them advanced technology completely for free now? I bet these givaways won't even be counted.
1 posted on 08/23/2005 4:10:07 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

I don't see this as any different from Microsoft offering free downloads of SDKs to developers. Both companies are trying to promote use of their technologies.


2 posted on 08/23/2005 4:12:59 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Golden Eagle
Big Blue will let software developers in Brazil, Russia, India, and China use company products for free.

You mean they were charging their employees before? Holy crap.

3 posted on 08/23/2005 4:16:28 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Aside from a free-market approach, I see this as a national security issue. Big Blue has a lot of involvement with Uncle. Further a lot of Blue's R&D and development will be handed off to other countries. I am totally against this.

Just so I don't get flamed, I've worked on several IBM projects, including IBM Federal in DC. Though I cannot stand government intrusion in the private sector, I believe that Uncle should have a conversation with the wigs in Armonk.

4 posted on 08/23/2005 4:18:29 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: blowfish

I don't think Microsoft gives much of anything away for free, that at least doesn't require one of their other products to operate, or especially only to foreign countries.

This deal seems to include everything, including hardware, and isn't available to people in the US or North America. I'd call it very unique and extreme in most every aspect.


5 posted on 08/23/2005 4:18:34 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Prime Choice
You mean they were charging their employees before? Holy crap.

You mean you thought this was for their employees only? Unbelievable.

6 posted on 08/23/2005 4:19:51 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: A. Pole; Jeff Head

Something your ping lists may be interested in.


7 posted on 08/23/2005 4:21:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
You mean you thought this was for their employees only? Unbelievable.

You thought I was serious? Typical.

8 posted on 08/23/2005 4:23:58 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I don't think Microsoft gives much of anything away for free

After dealing with the crapware that is Internet Explorer, I'd have to agree with that. Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk.

9 posted on 08/23/2005 4:24:45 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I don't think Microsoft gives much of anything away for free, that at least doesn't require one of their other products to operate, or especially only to foreign countries.

Only the new minimal "student" .NET development tools. The best bargain they offer is the MSDN Universal subscription - $2,500 a year, but you get developer licenses and installation DVDs for just about every enterprise product they sell.

10 posted on 08/23/2005 4:28:03 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: N3WBI3

I just somehow KNEW Golden Dodo was going to make an appearance today


11 posted on 08/23/2005 4:28:51 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: MikeinIraq
I just somehow KNEW Golden Dodo was going to make an appearance today

He's like a low-tech tomagotchi, isn't he? Just say "Linux" and watch him overflow with all sorts of Redmond rhetoric peppered with idiosyncratic nonsense. Hehehehehe.

12 posted on 08/23/2005 4:31:21 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Cobra64
I see this as a national security issue.

Thanks, so do I. IBM has been giving lots of software away to everyone lately, but to make it exclusively available to foreign lands is highly questionable. Thanks to Bill Clinton, who IBM management absolutely loved, there is little to no export control over anything software related, and these foreign goverments can use some of this new software to build "supercomputers" from clusters of cheap PC's these days. Speaking of which, IBM sold their PC division to the Chinese government earlier this year, for 1/10 of its yearly gross. Hopefully at some point these givaways will be stopped.

13 posted on 08/23/2005 4:31:28 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: MikeinIraq; Prime Choice
Excuse us adults while we have a serious discussion please. Thx.
14 posted on 08/23/2005 4:32:38 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Cobra64
I see this as a national security issue. Big Blue has a lot of involvement with Uncle.

Microsoft gave the source code for their Windows OS to the Chinese. You think government should stop doing business with Redmond now?

15 posted on 08/23/2005 4:33:07 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Excuse us adults while we have a serious discussion please. Thx.

Ah, the air of false sanctimonity and genuine pomposity. It's just so...you, Brass Buzzard.

16 posted on 08/23/2005 4:33:56 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Only the new minimal "student" .NET development tools.

Thanks, that's what I thought. Unfortunately some posters are so obsessed with Microsoft they try to change the subject whenever the dangers of these givaways by IBM and others to foreign countries are discussed. If Microsoft suddenly gave all their software to the world for free, they'd suddenly love them, since that's obviously their ultimate motivation.

17 posted on 08/23/2005 4:37:02 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Prime Choice; Golden Eagle
Brass Buzzard.

LOL!!!! NICE!!!!
18 posted on 08/23/2005 4:38:04 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: Prime Choice
Microsoft gave the source code for their Windows OS to the Chinese.

That's not what they did. In response to IBM's complete givaways, they have allowed governments to view portions of the Windows code under strict circumstances. I don't agree with it, but it's certainly not a point you're enabled to make, since you support the complete givaways by IBM.

19 posted on 08/23/2005 4:39:57 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
That's not what they did.

They sure as hell did. Lying about it doesn't help your cause, sport.

20 posted on 08/23/2005 4:40:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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