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To: Map Kernow

HOW do we do that?

Seriously, how do we as citizens make guilty politicians "pay" for refusing representation on this issue?

I don't have a clue since the voting options tend to narrow us down to voting for one of two who both refuse representation on this issue, and by not voting, they get what they want: more reason not to represent.

I'd be interested in practical solutions because I'm in CA and even the so-called conservatives in office are ineffective on this issue. In fact, certain loud-spoken so-called conservatives in Southern CA endorsed the LaRaza mayor of L.A., Villiarosa.

And ridicule Tancredo, for starters, and people of his opinions.


145 posted on 08/23/2005 7:51:25 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS
Seriously, how do we as citizens make guilty politicians "pay" for refusing representation on this issue?

There was the "John and Ken" solution they proposed against David Dreyer last year, but I'm not prepared to vote for the Tweedledee Party just to punish the Tweedledum Party...not yet anyway...

Somewhere out there, as I think Ed Rollins recently suggested, there're the people, the money, the motivation, and the organizing power to form a third party that could make a real difference on illegal immigration---if not to win elections, at least to scare the major parties, and in particular the Republicans, enough to get something seriously done on illegal immigration. It's less and less of a pipe dream, I assure you. Some sort of "Citizens' Party" is on the horizon.

I don't think we can trust the Republicans on their own to reform on the issue, Tancredo or no Tancredo.

The alternatives are so much worse: voting for Democrats, who will likely be just as or more insincere about promises of immigration law enforcement as Republicans, stepped-up "vigilanteism" (as you-know-who likes to call it), or active citizen resistance, such as boycotts and picketing of scofflaw businesses, targeted litigation, and...well...who knows what further...

Our country is going down a bad route because of the illegal alien invasion. It'll get even worse for all of us if politicians don't develop some real responsiveness on the issue. Even if all we can do at present is have all the incumbents, especially the Republican incumbents who have betrayed patriots of their party on this issue, worried about retaining their seats next election, it'll be a damn good start.

148 posted on 08/23/2005 8:06:01 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BIRDS
I'd be interested in practical solutions because I'm in CA

Scratch what I wrote above and donate to Jim Gilchrist, like Janet suggested. He's one of those "vigilantes" that are even less welcome at the White House (and here at FR) than Tom Tancredo. He's running to replace the namby-pamby organization man Chris Cox in my congressional district. If he does succeed, it'll shake up the Tweedledum and Tweedledee Parties on illegal immigration and the borders like practically no other event. God bless Jim Gilchrist and the Minutemen!

160 posted on 08/23/2005 9:12:25 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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