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Man dies in scuffle with security guards
The Cleveland Advocate ^ | 08/10/2005 | Jamie Nash

Posted on 08/23/2005 10:47:25 AM PDT by JamesP81

A Cleveland man died last Sunday after a scuffle with security guards at the Walmart Super Center located at 6626 FM1960 in Atascocita.

According to witnesses, Stacy Driver ran out of the store and was pursued by Walmart loss prevention employees. A short time later, Driver was dead, and the Walmart employees were trying to explain the last moments of his life to police.

Charles Portz said he was getting out of his car when he saw a heavy blonde haired man being chased by five people who appeared to be security or store employees. He said he saw them wrestling the man to the ground. "The blacktop was extremely hot," said Portz "He had no shirt on and they wouldn't let him up off the blacktop."

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According to Portz, Driver began to plead with them men. "He's begging, 'Please call an ambulance, let me up, do something, I'm gonna die," said Portz. He said the loss prevention employees called the police more than once, but another bystander called for an ambulance after realizing Driver was in trouble. Portz said he eventually began to plead with the Walmart employees. "I told them, this guy doesn't look like he's breathing," Portz said, "They said, 'He's all right."

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The store employees could not have known that the witness who was pleading with them to let Driver get up from the hot pavement was a high profile Houston attorney, from the Portz and Portz law firm.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 31yroldshoplifter; deathcultivation; donutwatch; stealingbeatworking; thoushallnotsteal
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I strongly reccomend you read the whole article.
1 posted on 08/23/2005 10:47:26 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81

"Loss prevention employees"? Wow, what a euphemism!

Were they hired by "inventory maintenance employees"?


2 posted on 08/23/2005 10:51:05 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: JamesP81

Why. There's nothing more of interest in the full article. Am I missing something?


3 posted on 08/23/2005 10:54:02 AM PDT by Mr_Peter
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To: RexBeach
Were they hired by "inventory maintenance employees"?

No, non-motorized parking lot conveyance specialists. Another level of training is required to get the little motorized carts back to the store.

4 posted on 08/23/2005 10:55:21 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Can we swap Cindy Sheehan in Crawford for Cindy Crawford anywhere?)
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To: JamesP81

Crime doesn't pay. That's all I get from this.


5 posted on 08/23/2005 10:56:36 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: JamesP81

asphyxiation due to pressure on the chest. never leave someone lying on their stomach while they are immobilized. recipe for disaster. can you smell the lawyers?


6 posted on 08/23/2005 10:57:56 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: over3Owithabrain
Crime doesn't pay. That's all I get from this.

It might for his survivors. Ka-ching!

7 posted on 08/23/2005 10:58:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

LOL - you are so right!


8 posted on 08/23/2005 10:59:20 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: thefactor

The lawyer was standing there, the blood sucker even beat the ambulance to the scene.


9 posted on 08/23/2005 10:59:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: over3Owithabrain

true, but should this guy be dead?


10 posted on 08/23/2005 10:59:55 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: JamesP81

Didn't this happen a while ago? I remember reading about this several weeks back.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 11:00:15 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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Stuidity. The guy shouldn't stole. The Walmart employees were negligent and caused his death. They should of let him at the first sign of trouble. There are going to be big lawsuits.


12 posted on 08/23/2005 11:00:38 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: thefactor
asphyxiation due to pressure on the chest. never leave someone lying on their stomach while they are immobilized.

It may depend on your physical condition.

13 posted on 08/23/2005 11:01:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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Well, unfortunately for him, since he is a witness he can't represent the dead guy....


14 posted on 08/23/2005 11:01:30 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: thefactor

Didn't say he SHOULD be dead. But when you put yourself in these situations, anything can happen. Lesson learned for all the potential thugs out there...


15 posted on 08/23/2005 11:01:38 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Mr_Peter

Don't go shoplifting without wearing a shirt.


16 posted on 08/23/2005 11:02:42 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Mr_Peter
According to Portz, Driver began to plead with them men. "He's begging, 'Please call an ambulance, let me up, do something, I'm gonna die," Portz said he eventually began to plead with the Walmart employees. "I told them, this guy doesn't look like he's breathing," Portz said, "They said, 'He's all right." He says he continued to plead with the men, pointing out that the man's fingernails were turning gray. "They said he's just high on something," adding, "They just kept him pinned down for twenty minutes or more until the ambulance came."

He said after the man was handcuffed he continued trying in vain to persuade the Walmart employees to allow him to get up, even pointing out that a second pair of cuffs could be used to attach the ones already on Driver to a nearby truck trailer

I have never stolen anything in my life, yet idiot cashiers have failed to deactivate the inventory control tags and I have almost gone hands on with the mall ninjas when they approached me, I was not trying to evade them I just would not allow them to touch me, they attempted to close with me while I was getting my receipt. If this account is true I think at least manslaughter charges should be filed
17 posted on 08/23/2005 11:03:09 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: JamesP81

I read the story and the comments by others at the end. I am amazed at the thinking of some people. They blame the walmart employees and not the thief for his actions. Another amazing thing is this is my walmart, been their many times and I have never seen anyone neer the door that would be considered loss prevention employees. Moral of story, don't steal and you won't ever have to worry about this happening to you.


18 posted on 08/23/2005 11:05:01 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: JamesP81

I read the whole article.


Note to self....do not steal from Wal-Mart.


They will kill you.


This is no joke.


19 posted on 08/23/2005 11:05:44 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (How does He know what you're gonna do? He had a great view from YOUR cross.)
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To: thefactor
asphyxiation due to pressure on the chest. never leave someone lying on their stomach while they are immobilized. recipe for disaster. can you smell the lawyers?

Yeah, but this time it doesn't bother me. Shoplifting is a crime, but death is not an acceptable punishment. Killing someone for trying to make off with a pack of diapers is inexcusable. Also, the newspaper article notes:

We also remind readers that there is no proof he actually took anything.

That wasn't in the part I quoted, but is in the originial article.
20 posted on 08/23/2005 11:05:56 AM PDT by JamesP81
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